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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS text each other. Texting while flying? ;(  | 
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Just like while driving, only now they'll more likely kill themselves than  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	me on my motorcycle. "son_of_flubber" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote: If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS text each other. Texting while flying? ;(  | 
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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:13:17 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	Just like while driving, only now they'll more likely kill themselves than me on my motorcycle. "son_of_flubber" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote: If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS text each other. Texting while flying? ;( OK, I'll jump in here with my flame suit on: With today's smartphones, it's likely that you can just touch a button and "talk" to your phone to send a message. No different really than the push-to-talk on the control stick and completely "stealth". Flame on!  | 
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On 12/26/2012 8:20 PM, SoaringXCellence wrote: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:13:17 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote: Just like while driving, only now they'll more likely kill themselves than me on my motorcycle. "son_of_flubber" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote: If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS text each other. Texting while flying? ;( OK, I'll jump in here with my flame suit on: With today's smartphones, it's likely that you can just touch a button and "talk" to your phone to send a message. No different really than the push-to-talk on the control stick and completely "stealth". Where do you guys fly, that your phones work in the air? How high are you? I don't have much luck with phones in the Western US, which is why I have Spot. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)  | 
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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:34:54 PM UTC-8, Eric Greenwell wrote: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	On 12/26/2012 8:20 PM, SoaringXCellence wrote: On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:13:17 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote: Just like while driving, only now they'll more likely kill themselves than me on my motorcycle. "son_of_flubber" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote: If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS text each other. Texting while flying? ;( OK, I'll jump in here with my flame suit on: With today's smartphones, it's likely that you can just touch a button and "talk" to your phone to send a message. No different really than the push-to-talk on the control stick and completely "stealth". Where do you guys fly, that your phones work in the air? How high are you? I don't have much luck with phones in the Western US, which is why I have Spot. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) They are suggesting SMS not voice, works lots more places. Darryl  | 
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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:43:46 PM UTC-8, Darryl Ramm wrote: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:34:54 PM UTC-8, Eric Greenwell wrote: On 12/26/2012 8:20 PM, SoaringXCellence wrote: On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:13:17 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote: Just like while driving, only now they'll more likely kill themselves than me on my motorcycle. "son_of_flubber" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote: If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS text each other. Texting while flying? ;( OK, I'll jump in here with my flame suit on: With today's smartphones, it's likely that you can just touch a button and "talk" to your phone to send a message. No different really than the push-to-talk on the control stick and completely "stealth". Where do you guys fly, that your phones work in the air? How high are you? I don't have much luck with phones in the Western US, which is why I have Spot. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) They are suggesting SMS not voice, works lots more places. Darryl If there is no cell signal, SMS does not work either, although it only takes a split of a second of signal to get a message through. But in practice, I found I have no cell signal once more than 3-4000 feet AGL, and no much luck with SMS messages as well, since if it didn't go through, you have to manually resend it, as it is not automatically trying to resend itself if failed. Ramy  | 
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	On 12/26/2012 8:20 PM, SoaringXCellence wrote: On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:13:17 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote: Just like while driving, only now they'll more likely kill themselves than me on my motorcycle. "son_of_flubber" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote: If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS text each other. Texting while flying? ;( OK, I'll jump in here with my flame suit on: With today's smartphones, it's likely that you can just touch a button and "talk" to your phone to send a message. No different really than the push-to-talk on the control stick and completely "stealth". Where do you guys fly, that your phones work in the air? How high are you? I don't have much luck with phones in the Western US, which is why I have Spot. SMS usually works in the air. Last month I was able to get a hold of my uncle in Golden while flying over Monarch pass in a Da-40 at 15.5k. Pete  | 
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People who want to cheat in soaring competitions do it much  more simply. There are thousands of frequencies. They just move off to a seldom used part of the dial a long way from 123.3. Or they bring along small portable walkie-talkies.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	So far this hasn't been a big problem in US soaring; "cheating" has mostly been a few buddies who just can't stop chatting in the air and hasn't affected the scoresheet. If you see two gliders pair flying, and the one in front turns 1 second after the one in back turns, you know what's going on. That sort of thing just isn't happening. Fortunately, almost all pilots obey the letter and spirit of the rules. And it turns out that being a mediocre pilot and trying to cheat by team flying doesn't work in soaring. In fact, our great pilots seem to be finding that it's very difficult to team fly effectively even when it is legal! John Cochrane  | 
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On Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:37:40 AM UTC-6, vontresc wrote: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	SMS usually works in the air. Last month I was able to get a hold of my uncle in Golden while flying over Monarch pass in a Da-40 at 15.5k. Pete Call me bad or dangerous, but I have taken calls and texted while flying my Nimbus 3. When I got out of radio range (not so good crew radio, it turns out), text was the way to communicate with my crew. Yes, it would work at 10K MSL over west Texas. Turn it on when a city was visible off to the side, get signal, send message. Old school phone, numeric keypad. Worked. Have taken calls in flight, too.  | 
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On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 4:54:32 PM UTC-6, Steve Leonard wrote: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
		
	
	
	On Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:37:40 AM UTC-6, vontresc wrote: SMS usually works in the air. Last month I was able to get a hold of my uncle in Golden while flying over Monarch pass in a Da-40 at 15.5k. Pete Call me bad or dangerous, but I have taken calls and texted while flying my Nimbus 3. When I got out of radio range (not so good crew radio, it turns out), text was the way to communicate with my crew. Yes, it would work at 10K MSL over west Texas. Turn it on when a city was visible off to the side, get signal, send message. Old school phone, numeric keypad. Worked. Have taken calls in flight, too. you're dangerous Mav. oh yea, i did the same thing on Kowbell.  | 
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