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May 20th 13, 12:57 AM
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LS 4 vs ASW 20
On Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, Walt Connelly wrote:
Your opinions please. Walt -- Walt Connelly I had a Minden tube ..... great trailer. Easy in/out, tows great..... the gelcoat or refinish is the money question. 
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May 20th 13, 02:12 AM
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LS 4 vs ASW 20
I'm 6' tall and weight more than I'd like. Though I have no experience with the ASW20 to compare, I found the LS4 quite comfortable except for the time the seat was too far forward and my parachute too low...
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#3
May 23rd 13, 01:55 AM
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LS 4 vs ASW 20
On Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:12:01 PM UTC-5, Terry Pitts wrote:
I'm 6' tall and weight more than I'd like. Though I have no experience with the ASW20 to compare, I found the LS4 quite comfortable except for the time the seat was too far forward and my parachute too low... I'm 6'5" and broad shouldered. Seat back out of my 20, chute on, astronaut foam...and I also have a hand-pump controlled inflatable lumbar cushion attached to my chute. I feel great after 5 hours in the 20. Flew a 27 a few months ago, definitely not as comfy. Jordan ASW20 E
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May 23rd 13, 04:35 AM
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LS 4 vs ASW 20
Erik, has good points.. I owned an Asw20 with winglets for 12 years. Flew the Ls4 a few times. Honestly, the LS4 handles better and is more stable, however the Asw20 still is a great handling ship. The 20, is much more versatile, and has better performance. The best part about the 20 is its short landing performance and glide path control. I landed the 20 in some hideous fields that the LS4 Would have ended up in kit form. A wingleted 20 definitely handles better. LS4 is a great ship regardless.
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#5
May 21st 13, 12:04 AM
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LS 4 vs ASW 20
On Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:57:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:32:37 AM UTC-5, Walt Connelly wrote: Your opinions please. Walt Walt Connelly I had a Minden tube ..... great trailer. Easy in/out, tows great..... the gelcoat or refinish is the money question. I also have a Minden tube trailer, and I hate it. They are apparently not all alike. Try taking everything out of a Minden, put the ship together and put it back in. Then help someone do it with a Cobra or Comet clamshell. You will never regret springing for the better trailer.
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#6
May 21st 13, 01:50 AM
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LS 4 vs ASW 20
I also have a Minden tube trailer, and I hate it. They are apparently not all alike. Try taking everything out of a Minden, put the ship together and put it back in. Then help someone do it with a Cobra or Comet clamshell. You will never regret springing for the better trailer. - I can fully relate to that statement. It's one of the poorest design I had ever seen, it has no handling improvements at so ever, plus its easy to damage glider parts during rigging and de-rigging process. Replaced mine with used Cobra and regretted purchasing one in the first place - should have negotiated the price of the glider down, without the junky trailer. GK
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