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On balance, are Moving Map PNAs better than Cambridge 302/303 styleLCD navigation?



 
 
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Old May 22nd 13, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
kirk.stant
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Default On balance, are Moving Map PNAs better than Cambridge 302/303style LCD navigation?

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:25:54 PM UTC+2, son_of_flubber wrote:
Now that folks have experience with both approaches, are Moving Map PNAs in fact a big step forward?



Do the advantages of Moving Map PNAs outweigh the disadvantages?


Yes.

Setup correctly (and they DO take some setting up), a good PNA map will tell you at a glance where you are, which way you need to go, and what landing places are in range all around you. You simply cannot get all that data from a text display.

My setup has an SN10 for the important tactical data, focused on the task or destination ahead. My PNA (Oudie/SYM) gives me a much bigger overview of the task, ground track, landable fields, and some additional data that I can look at when time permits.

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Old May 22nd 13, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default On balance, are Moving Map PNAs better than Cambridge 302/303style LCD navigation?

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:29:40 PM UTC-4, kirk.stant wrote:

My setup has an SN10 for the important tactical data, focused on the task or destination ahead. My PNA (Oudie/SYM) gives me a much bigger overview of the task, ground track, landable fields, and some additional data that I can look at when time permits.


So you're saying that you prefer to see tactical priority #1 information on SN10 and overview priority #2 info on PNA. Do you think that this is because you first develop the habits/skills of using the SN10 and you later added the PNA as a welcome enhancement, or is there some inherent advantage to splitting the information between the two devices?

Assuming you had your choice of "speed-to-fly" varios, would you then be happy putting all of the other information on the PNA? Or do you see a problem with putting too much information on the PNA and mixing tactical with overview information on the same device?
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Old May 22nd 13, 09:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default On balance, are Moving Map PNAs better than Cambridge 302/303style LCD navigation?

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:49:39 PM UTC+2, son_of_flubber wrote:

Assuming you had your choice of "speed-to-fly" varios, would you then be happy putting all of the other information on the PNA? Or do you see a problem with putting too much information on the PNA and mixing tactical with overview information on the same device?


Well, since I don't like "speed to fly" varios, it's kind of a moot point. Seriously, I thing the new crop of varios cram too much information into a small display, which is the exact opposite of what I want. I have the info I need in big numbers on my SN10 custom page, some of it repeated on my Oudie screens, and think we should be using more aural cues instead of more little bugs on varios. I prefer to pick a speed to fly and stick to it instead of following a speed command.

Now if I had an AOA indicator with nice bright LEDs, I wouldn't even need to look at the airspeed when slow (pattern, gaggling, etc). That would be really trick!

Kirk
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Old May 23rd 13, 11:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default On balance, are Moving Map PNAs better than Cambridge 302/303 style LCD navigation?

Now if I had an AOA indicator with nice bright LEDs, I wouldn't even
need to look at the airspeed when slow (pattern, gaggling, etc).
That would be really trick!


Use a sidestring?
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Old May 23rd 13, 12:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default On balance, are Moving Map PNAs better than Cambridge 302/303style LCD navigation?

On Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:40:19 PM UTC+2, Roel Baardman wrote:
Now if I had an AOA indicator with nice bright LEDs, I wouldn't even


need to look at the airspeed when slow (pattern, gaggling, etc).


That would be really trick!




Use a sidestring?


Tried it. Too sensitive to yaw, and not in the right place to see easily. And they get caught in the canopy when you close it...

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