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It does seem highly unlikely that there were 29 wings of G/Hs.

I've got a great book by Bob Dorr that actually lays out the disposition of the
BUFF fleet by various years. In 1970 there were 10 B-52G Wings (2nd, 97th,
42nd, 416th, 380th, 19th, 68th, 72nd, 320th & 456th) and 6 B-52H wings (379th,
410th, 449th, 17th, 319th & 5th). The rest of the forces were; 9.5 B-52D Wings
and half of an F Wing (seems one squadron at Castle still had B-52Fs in 1970).

As you can see from the numbers above, at least by 1970, there wasn't even 29
BUFF wings total.

The next earlier year looked at by Dorr is 1963. There are 2 x B-52B wings, 1 x
B-52C wing, 9 x B-52D wings, 5 x B-52E wings, 4 x B-52F wings, 10 x B-52G
wings, 6 x B-52H wings and 1 wing (Castle) with a squadron each of B-52Bs and
B-52Fs.

Thats 38 total wings. Obviously this predates even my birth, but I did not
think Hound Dog was that prevalent. If 29 of 38 wings had Hound Dog I would be
very surprised because I've met only 1 ol' BUFF crew dog (nice guy I met at the
Battle Creek Air Show) who had any Hound Dog experience.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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It does seem highly unlikely that there were 29 wings of G/Hs.

I've got a great book by Bob Dorr that actually lays out the disposition
of the
BUFF fleet by various years. In 1970 there were 10 B-52G Wings (2nd, 97th,
42nd, 416th, 380th, 19th, 68th, 72nd, 320th & 456th) and 6 B-52H wings
(379th,
410th, 449th, 17th, 319th & 5th). The rest of the forces were; 9.5 B-52D
Wings
and half of an F Wing (seems one squadron at Castle still had B-52Fs in
1970).

As you can see from the numbers above, at least by 1970, there wasn't even
29
BUFF wings total.

The next earlier year looked at by Dorr is 1963. There are 2 x B-52B
wings, 1 x
B-52C wing, 9 x B-52D wings, 5 x B-52E wings, 4 x B-52F wings, 10 x B-52G
wings, 6 x B-52H wings and 1 wing (Castle) with a squadron each of B-52Bs
and
B-52Fs.

Thats 38 total wings. Obviously this predates even my birth, but I did not
think Hound Dog was that prevalent. If 29 of 38 wings had Hound Dog I
would be
very surprised because I've met only 1 ol' BUFF crew dog (nice guy I met
at the
Battle Creek Air Show) who had any Hound Dog experience.

I believe a typo may be involved here--note that the fist quote indicated 29
*squadrons* were to receive the Hound Dog, and the second quote indicates
that as of 1963 29 *wings* had them. Two possibilities--a typo replaced
"squadrons" with wings in the second quote, or (perhaps more likely), only
one squadron per wing was tasked with Hound Dog delivery.

Brooks



BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it
harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
...
It does seem highly unlikely that there were 29 wings of G/Hs.

I've got a great book by Bob Dorr that actually lays out the disposition
of the
BUFF fleet by various years. In 1970 there were 10 B-52G Wings (2nd, 97th,
42nd, 416th, 380th, 19th, 68th, 72nd, 320th & 456th) and 6 B-52H wings
(379th,
410th, 449th, 17th, 319th & 5th). The rest of the forces were; 9.5 B-52D
Wings
and half of an F Wing (seems one squadron at Castle still had B-52Fs in
1970).

As you can see from the numbers above, at least by 1970, there wasn't even
29
BUFF wings total.

The next earlier year looked at by Dorr is 1963. There are 2 x B-52B
wings, 1 x
B-52C wing, 9 x B-52D wings, 5 x B-52E wings, 4 x B-52F wings, 10 x B-52G
wings, 6 x B-52H wings and 1 wing (Castle) with a squadron each of B-52Bs
and
B-52Fs.

Thats 38 total wings. Obviously this predates even my birth, but I did not
think Hound Dog was that prevalent. If 29 of 38 wings had Hound Dog I
would be
very surprised because I've met only 1 ol' BUFF crew dog (nice guy I met
at the
Battle Creek Air Show) who had any Hound Dog experience.

The BUFF BN I know locally has Hound Dog experince.
Come to think of it, he never flew a short tail eithier.

The BUFF BN I know locally has Hound Dog experince.
Come to think of it, he never flew a short tail eithier.

Do yourself a favor, to his face, never refer to him as a "BN". He was a
*Radar* Navigator and he'll let you know that

The guy I met at the Battle Creek Airshow did not retire, so he had less than
20 years, but he said he flew G models his whole career (how ever long that
was?).


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

FWIW one of my squadron mates flying a 104A out of Patrick AFB
intercepted and shot down a Hound Dog using an AIM9B. And my
cross-the-street neighbor at Homestead was one of the test RNs on the
Hound Dog.
Walt BJ

"WaltBJ" wrote in message
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FWIW one of my squadron mates flying a 104A out of Patrick AFB
intercepted and shot down a Hound Dog using an AIM9B. And my
cross-the-street neighbor at Homestead was one of the test RNs on the
Hound Dog.
Walt BJ

Cool.
What was the nature of the event, Walt? Was this an example of
expending old munitions in a useful manner (gunnery practice)
and/or an active training launch for a B-52 crew?

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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The BUFF BN I know locally has Hound Dog experince.
Come to think of it, he never flew a short tail eithier.

Do yourself a favor, to his face, never refer to him as a "BN". He was a
*Radar* Navigator and he'll let you know that

Nope, I have referred to his position that way with out any correction.
His more interesting tales are about the school that didn't exist anyway.

The guy I met at the Battle Creek Airshow did not retire, so he had less
than
20 years, but he said he flew G models his whole career (how ever long
that
was?).

Do yourself a favor, to his face, never refer to him as a "BN". He was a
*Radar* Navigator and he'll let you know that

Nope, I have referred to his position that way with out any correction.
His more interesting tales are about the school that didn't exist anyway.


What sort of school?


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)

"Ron" wrote in message
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Do yourself a favor, to his face, never refer to him as a "BN". He was
a
*Radar* Navigator and he'll let you know that

Nope, I have referred to his position that way with out any correction.
His more interesting tales are about the school that didn't exist anyway.


What sort of school?

Had to do with psychological warfare.

Do yourself a favor, to his face, never refer to him as a "BN". He was a
*Radar* Navigator and he'll let you know that

Nope, I have referred to his position that way with out any correction.

He must *really* like you


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"