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Old September 4th 13, 09:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Uncle Fuzzy: Instead of just wondering about the integrity of the 30+ year old cables why not put a new set in? It's not that complicated or expensive a job. With lots of gliders there is a calendar or flight hour limit on the cables anyways.

I recall Derek Piggott writing that the DG-100 rudder locks over and that the Janus does too so a Janus flight was a good way of experiencing the effect with an instructor if you had purchased or were considering purchasing a 100.

My 15B slips very steeply and effectively and behaves well in a full slip but the incident with the JS-1 also had me wondering about what would happen if a cable broke. When I disconnected the left cable at the turnbuckle aft of the pedals in the process of replacing my cables I noticed that the rudder was only deflected about ten degrees by the spring on the side that was still hooked up. Of course this doesn't tell me what it would do with a 50 knot or more airflow over it. Since I frequently fly barefoot I suppose I could do a test in flight by simply grabbing one pedal with my toes and pulling it backwards putting slack in the cable while not touching the other pedal.
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Old September 4th 13, 02:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:17:24 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Uncle Fuzzy: Instead of just wondering about the integrity of the 30+ year old cables why not put a new set in? It's not that complicated or expensive a job. With lots of gliders there is a calendar or flight hour limit on the cables anyways.



I recall Derek Piggott writing that the DG-100 rudder locks over and that the Janus does too so a Janus flight was a good way of experiencing the effect with an instructor if you had purchased or were considering purchasing a 100.



My 15B slips very steeply and effectively and behaves well in a full slip but the incident with the JS-1 also had me wondering about what would happen if a cable broke. When I disconnected the left cable at the turnbuckle aft of the pedals in the process of replacing my cables I noticed that the rudder was only deflected about ten degrees by the spring on the side that was still hooked up. Of course this doesn't tell me what it would do with a 50 knot or more airflow over it. Since I frequently fly barefoot I suppose I could do a test in flight by simply grabbing one pedal with my toes and pulling it backwards putting slack in the cable while not touching the other pedal.


The cables are fine. I just like to 'what if' when I have the time, and this was one of those times. I found I can make it go generally where I want, with or without rudder input, with or without aileron input, but I do need ONE of them. Kinda' OBE now that my only 'rating' is "Ballast" (maybe 'honorable ballast'

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Old September 4th 13, 02:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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snip...Since I frequently fly barefoot ...

Not in New Mexico, I'd wager!


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Uncle Fuzzy: Instead of just wondering about the integrity of the 30+ year
old cables why not put a new set in? It's not that complicated or expensive
a job. With lots of gliders there is a calendar or flight hour limit on the
cables anyways.

I recall Derek Piggott writing that the DG-100 rudder locks over and that
the Janus does too so a Janus flight was a good way of experiencing the
effect with an instructor if you had purchased or were considering
purchasing a 100.

My 15B slips very steeply and effectively and behaves well in a full slip
but the incident with the JS-1 also had me wondering about what would happen
if a cable broke. When I disconnected the left cable at the turnbuckle aft
of the pedals in the process of replacing my cables I noticed that the
rudder was only deflected about ten degrees by the spring on the side that
was still hooked up. Of course this doesn't tell me what it would do with a
50 knot or more airflow over it. Since I frequently fly barefoot I suppose I
could do a test in flight by simply grabbing one pedal with my toes and
pulling it backwards putting slack in the cable while not touching the other
pedal.

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Old September 9th 13, 02:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 7:54:47 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
snip...Since I frequently fly barefoot ...



Not in New Mexico, I'd wager!





wrote in message

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Uncle Fuzzy: Instead of just wondering about the integrity of the 30+ year

old cables why not put a new set in? It's not that complicated or expensive

a job. With lots of gliders there is a calendar or flight hour limit on the

cables anyways.



I recall Derek Piggott writing that the DG-100 rudder locks over and that

the Janus does too so a Janus flight was a good way of experiencing the

effect with an instructor if you had purchased or were considering

purchasing a 100.



My 15B slips very steeply and effectively and behaves well in a full slip

but the incident with the JS-1 also had me wondering about what would happen

if a cable broke. When I disconnected the left cable at the turnbuckle aft

of the pedals in the process of replacing my cables I noticed that the

rudder was only deflected about ten degrees by the spring on the side that

was still hooked up. Of course this doesn't tell me what it would do with a

50 knot or more airflow over it. Since I frequently fly barefoot I suppose I

could do a test in flight by simply grabbing one pedal with my toes and

pulling it backwards putting slack in the cable while not touching the other

pedal.


No barefooting at our glider port in Colorado, nor sandals. The little ball cactus are buggers and it's not rare to have someone hooking up the CG hook during winch launching kneel on one. They hide in the buffalo grass. It's been about five years since a visiting CAP member managed to get bit by a rattler, but he was tempting fate also.

Frank Whiteley
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Old September 9th 13, 03:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:06:17 PM UTC-4, Frank Whiteley wrote:

No barefooting at our glider port in Colorado, nor sandals. The little ball cactus are buggers and it's not rare to have someone hooking up the CG hook during winch launching kneel on one. They hide in the buffalo grass. It's been about five years since a visiting CAP member managed to get bit by a rattler, but he was tempting fate also.



Frank Whiteley


Yikes. Fires, cacti, and rattlesnakes. I guess the lift is worth it.
 




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