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On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 20:33:07 -0700, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:53:03 PM UTC-6, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:58:50 +0100, Gilbert Smith wrote: He has flaps right up / left down so the turn is no surprise, and he says that was the 87th take because most times it doesn't centre properly. I saw that the elevons were bent to 90 degrees and did at one point think I saw one down. However I thought that the last shot of its rear end showed them both up, so thanks for correction. I'm not surprised he took several shots, though 87 seems like a lot. On a related topic, back in the 80s (IIRC), a few of the American indoor fliers discovered they could win Indoor Hand Launched Glider contests with very light microfilm covered models that they launched over a patch of sunlight on the floor of the venue. I heard about this but never saw plans or photos of the models: does anybody know if there are any films or videos of these things flying? They'd fly a lot like that paper glider though much slower. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | No, but search for walkalong gliders on Youtube. Varietal constructions, paper and foam, tumbling and stable. I know about walkalong glider, thanks. There was a Czech guy at last month's Free Flight World Champs flying one at the open air prizegiving - yes it was pretty calm but he still needed rather fast reactions to keep it in front of a roughly 3ft x 4ft stretched fabric frame. The model looked to be around 25cm spam with a minimal balsa structure covered with 5 or 10 micron aluminised mylar. I'd have thought the sun-patch soaring IHLG would have to turn almost as tight as that paper glider - sun patches on hall floors are often only a metre or two square. I doubt that the Czech model would turn that tight because it had a decent a/r (7+) and fairly long moment arm and nose. That's why I was asking about photos and/pr plans. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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At 23:53 10 September 2013, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:58:50 +0100, Gilbert Smith wrote: He has flaps right up / left down so the turn is no surprise, and he says that was the 87th take because most times it doesn't centre properly. I saw that the elevons were bent to 90 degrees and did at one point think I saw one down. However I thought that the last shot of its rear end showed them both up, so thanks for correction. I'm not surprised he took several shots, though 87 seems like a lot. On a related topic, back in the 80s (IIRC), a few of the American indoor fliers discovered they could win Indoor Hand Launched Glider contests with very light microfilm covered models that they launched over a patch of sunlight on the floor of the venue. I heard about this but never saw plans or photos of the models: does anybody know if there are any films or videos of these things flying? They'd fly a lot like that paper glider though much slower. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | I built one of these models. The covering was made by floating a film of dope on water and very gently lifting it off and covering a very light balsa frame. They did work as you suggest. |
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:45:40 +0000, Don Johnstone wrote:
I built one of these models. The covering was made by floating a film of dope on water and very gently lifting it off and covering a very light balsa frame. They did work as you suggest. Very cool! I've made and used microfilm in the past, though only for NZ rules Easy-B and 35cm rubber models. If you have any dimensions or sketches of your model I'd love to get a copy: the email address below at the end of this post is valid if you'd care to send me any details. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:52:26 AM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sozrof3HY Youtube video of a paper sailplane thermally over an electric stove. Wow! He is building "my" aircraft! (Actually my Dad taught me that one.) That is what I show all the kid when I have a chance. What a beautiful machine to show the effect of aerodynamics. Heinz, soarboy at comcast dot net |
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On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:52:26 AM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sozrof3HY Youtube video of a paper sailplane thermally over an electric stove. I first saw this model of paper aircraft more than 50 years ago in an annual "Rupert Book", a collection of serialized comics based on the adventures of Rupert Bear and his pals taken from the pages of the Daily Mail in the UK. My mother taught me to read using these books, one of which I received every year at Christmas. Rupert used it to send a message after he had been locked up in a tower by some evil character. Go Rupert! |
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