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Old May 19th 04, 12:54 AM
Ron
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96 tons of water!!!!!

The hell with that, how about 400' AGL and only 140 KIAS?


BUFDRVR


We were a heck of a lot lower in the C-54 on our drops..I think with the
pressuization system, they plan on dropping higher, but it will be hard to be
precise at all, or go into canyons.

The 747 will be good for a deluge from around 600-800 AGL, but its going to
be a deluge, and not something that will be precise or that you can do with the
"grubbies" nearby


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

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Old May 19th 04, 07:26 AM
Jack G
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Carpet Water Bombing?

Jack

"Ron" wrote in message
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96 tons of water!!!!!


The hell with that, how about 400' AGL and only 140 KIAS?


BUFDRVR


We were a heck of a lot lower in the C-54 on our drops..I think with the
pressuization system, they plan on dropping higher, but it will be hard to

be
precise at all, or go into canyons.

The 747 will be good for a deluge from around 600-800 AGL, but its going

to
be a deluge, and not something that will be precise or that you can do

with the
"grubbies" nearby


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base



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Old May 19th 04, 08:47 AM
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Carpet Water Bombing?


Like a 400,000 pound cow, ****in' on a flat rock.

"Surrender now, or the next load is going to be pig urine, headed for Falluja!"


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Old June 13th 04, 05:00 AM
Kristan Roberge
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Ron wrote:

96 tons of water!!!!!


The hell with that, how about 400' AGL and only 140 KIAS?


BUFDRVR


We were a heck of a lot lower in the C-54 on our drops..I think with the
pressuization system, they plan on dropping higher, but it will be hard to be
precise at all, or go into canyons.

The 747 will be good for a deluge from around 600-800 AGL, but its going to
be a deluge, and not something that will be precise or that you can do with the
"grubbies" nearby


i know its an old thread, but why not? The Martin Mars can drop 7200 gallons in one
go. You
don't need to be precise with that sorta load. And have you seen a mars? They make
the C-54 look
small.



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Old June 13th 04, 09:46 AM
Ron
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i know its an old thread, but why not? The Martin Mars can drop 7200 gallons
in one
go. You
don't need to be precise with that sorta load. And have you seen a mars? They
make
the C-54 look
small.


Martin Mars drops water on a fire, which is different than dropping retardant
along the flanks and head of the fire.

Precision is often needed because of working in close proximity to ground
resources. The Mars drops a lot of water on hot areas of the fire. Its just a
different kind of resource than a retardant dropping tanker.

A 747 tanker can have a role, but a big part of forest fire suppression is
about getting there soon with aircraft based nearby, rather than having to send
aircraft from across the country



Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

 




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