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Old March 21st 15, 12:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tim Newport-Peace[_2_]
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At 11:42 21 March 2015, wrote:
Which is just as well, as OGN won't sell you one!
=20

Well, just to clarify- "OGN" is not selling anything to anyone. Apart

from
=
ideas and inspiration to do cool things (I hope ) And OGN is not
forcing=
anyone to use one and only one solution (as some other companies do).

OGN needs to distance itself from any Tracker other than Flarm itself,

to
ensure the co-operation of Flarm.

Don't see any reason for that. OGN has never said it was purly "FLARM's
toy=
". FLARM could have had done it years ago, did not take its chance. It's
di=
fficult to imagine that so many people would voluntarily sacrifice their
ti=
me and money in the name of building (for free!) a highly distributed
netwo=
rk which would then only be bound to one commercial company.
=20


Andrea states quite clearly:
/*
We think OGN is largely a cool thing, and we have reasons to believe
OGN+Flarm can fruitfully cooperate, to the benefit of gliding. If some
conditions
are met, such as OGN accepts the FlarmTrackingServer for decoding, and OGN
does not engage in an aircraft tracker. And OGN is learning that not
anything goes.
*/

So it it comes to a choice between tracking Flarm (of which there are
Thousands) or tracking your device (of which there are very few), the
choice is obvious.

And if Flarm does cease co-operating with OGN, I can see Tracking Receivers
being switched off as there will be virtually nothing to track.



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Old March 21st 15, 01:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_5_]
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On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 12:33:33 +0000, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:

And if Flarm does cease co-operating with OGN, I can see Tracking
Receivers being switched off as there will be virtually nothing to
track.

It seems that the main cause of the rift has been that some OGN members
have caused the problem by refusing to honour 'stealth', i.e. privacy,
settings on the grounds that they can do whatever they like with every
bit picked up by their received and that the pilots who own the FLARM
unit being tracked have no right to say what anybody else can do with the
messages it emits.

To me this is a spurious as the Creative Commons people's view that a
creator has no rights over his work. The way forward is for OGN to get
its beans in a row and fully implement the privacy elements of the FLARM
protocol: no ifs, buts or exceptions.


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