Help us with this petition for security on anti-collision systems

At 10:30 22 May 2015, wrote:
Hi,
we recently launched a petition against Flarm decision to encrypt their
communication protocols.

Although Flarm have the majority of the market for anti-collision systems
there are others vendors and we think that monopolies are not a good
things
in any market and more important security comes first.

For this reasons we invite you to subscribe our campaign.

https://www..communication-protocol


Thank you so much!
Sergio

Do you have any connection with DSX?

As far as I know they are the only equipment manufacturer offering a Flarm
?compatible? instrument that does not use integrated Flarm (tm) Firmware.

Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2015 14:00:04 UTC+2 schrieb Tim Newport-Peace:
At 10:30 22 May 2015, wrote:
Hi,
we recently launched a petition against Flarm decision to encrypt their
communication protocols.

Although Flarm have the majority of the market for anti-collision systems
there are others vendors and we think that monopolies are not a good
things
in any market and more important security comes first.

For this reasons we invite you to subscribe our campaign.

https://www..communication-protocol


Thank you so much!
Sergio

Do you have any connection with DSX?

As far as I know they are the only equipment manufacturer offering a Flarm
?compatible? instrument that does not use integrated Flarm (tm) Firmware.

The new encryption of Flarm is a result of the OGN activity which more or less pirated the existing protocol, as well as the existing FlarmNet database without asking for permission.
OGN then put all tracked gliders with their real ID onto a public website map.

While in France people generally like that, a fair number of pilots in Germany were upset by the fact that their real-time tracks were visible on a public map without having been asked. I myself don't want this to happen.

So the choice was simple - either a new encryption, or a large number of pilots simply switching off their Flarm. I am happy with the encryption.

Now OGN people are just ****ed off that they have to hack the protocol again.

At 12:50 22 May 2015, Tango Whisky wrote:
Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2015 14:00:04 UTC+2 schrieb Tim Newport-Peace:
At 10:30 22 May 2015, wrote:
Hi,
we recently launched a petition against Flarm decision to encrypt
their
communication protocols.

Although Flarm have the majority of the market for anti-collision
systems
there are others vendors and we think that monopolies are not a good
things
in any market and more important security comes first.

For this reasons we invite you to subscribe our campaign.

https://www..communication-protocol


Thank you so much!
Sergio

Do you have any connection with DSX?

As far as I know they are the only equipment manufacturer offering a
Flarm
?compatible? instrument that does not use integrated Flarm (tm)
Firmware.

The new encryption of Flarm is a result of the OGN activity which more or
less pirated the existing protocol, as well as the existing FlarmNet
database without asking for permission.
OGN then put all tracked gliders with their real ID onto a public website
map.
Wrong in many ways. Earlier releases of Flarm were time-bombed long before
OGN came into being.

There has always been an opt-out.

While in France people generally like that, a fair number of pilots in
Germany were upset by the fact that their real-time tracks were visible
on
a public map without having been asked. I myself don't want this to
happen.

The opt-out.

So the choice was simple - either a new encryption, or a large number of
pilots simply switching off their Flarm. I am happy with the encryption.

No. It was going to happen anyway.

Now OGN people are just ****ed off that they have to hack the protocol

Not ****ed off. OGN up and running on V6.
again.

The matter with FLARM may have discussed "to death" but a few appear th have grasped the basics, so let me try to wrap it up once for ever: FLARM decided one day to make business in flight safety by manufacturing an air trafic alert device, a Version for glider pilots of a TCAS in fact. Fair enough. The device has soon spread throughout the glider pilots community and by doing so it has changed the pilot's behaviour in flight. As soon as other manufacturers showed up FLARM introduced the data encryption in the firmware of a TCAS system making the other systems invisible to them and viceversa. This modus operandi is unthinkable in the GA and commercial aviation and thanks God. We all get on planes to fly for business or leisure without realling worrying about mid air collisions in a much denser airtraffic environment. This thanks to the fact that the standards are set by an authority, the FAA generally, and not by the whim of the largest or most cunning manufacturer. The fact that the soaring world is not as heavily regulated as the general and commercial aviation by no means mean that FLARM is entitled to act as it does since 2008. The protocol transmission has to be public and I for God's sake still want to have the right to chose the system that i like the most for my glider!
Marco Maceri

On Friday, 22 May 2015 14:50:22 UTC+2, Tango Whisky wrote:
The new encryption of Flarm is a result of the OGN activity which more or less pirated the existing protocol, as well as the existing FlarmNet database without asking for permission.
OGN then put all tracked gliders with their real ID onto a public website map.

- OGN don't use the FlarmNet database any more. They use their own database now.
- OGN honour the "no-tracking" flag in the FLARM version 6 protocol.
- If you want your details to be displayed on OGN you need to opt-in.
- If you don't want your details to be displayed anymore you can opt-out but there is no auto opt-in or the copying of your ID from other sources (like the FlarmNet DB).

Plenty of detail here http://wiki.glidernet.org/opt-in-opt-out

Now OGN people are just ****ed off that they have to hack the protocol again.

Geeks like the challenge - V6 already hacked.

It's nice to see that OGN are playing nicely now for those who prefer to keeo their identities secret.