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Old June 3rd 04, 01:02 AM
Paul J. Adam
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In message , Cub Driver
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But, the Wall
is black and buried, a depression in the ground symbolizing the
depression of the nation that did not win the war or respect the men
who fought it.


I think you're wrong on this one, Ed. To me the Wall is the most
beautiful and most moving monument anywhere in the world, the only one
I return to, and the only one that ever made me cry.


I will say that the Vietnam memorial didn't have that effect on me. But
then, it wasn't my war, and it's only through here I know folk who
fought there.

That said: it made me pause and scan the names, it made me pause and
respect the fallen, and if I didn't already have a passing acquaintance
with the conflict I'd have sought out more information.

For a foreigner, it did its job. It's a very good monument.

--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk
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Old June 3rd 04, 10:24 AM
Cub Driver
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For a foreigner, it did its job.


Maya Lin was born in Athens, Ohio. Can't get more American than that!

She was a student at Yale when she won the Vietnam Memorial
competition.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Old June 3rd 04, 02:52 PM
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After 30 years have passed since I came home - I still can't go to the
wall without memories and tears.

Jim
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Old June 3rd 04, 05:52 PM
George Z. Bush
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"Jim McCartan" wrote in message
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After 30 years have passed since I came home - I still can't go to the
wall without memories and tears.

Jim


You have my deepest sympathies. All those lives wasted just to prove that the
"domino theory" we were told was threatening our national existence was
fallacious and untrue.

After all was said and done, the North Vietnamese won the war, we left Viet Nam,
and the horrible Communists did NOT take over all of Asia. We could have let
them take over their country without sacrificing 58,000 American lives, not to
mention the hundreds of thousands of wounded and maimed young Americans and we
wouldn't have been any the worse for it.

Hindsight is wonderful in providing insight, providing one is willing to learn
from it. Those unwilling to learn from it are doomed to repeat the experience.
The current batch of Kerry bashers haven't figured out yet that he was right and
the rest of us who thought at the time that we belonged in that dogfight were
wrong.

George Z.


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Old June 3rd 04, 06:01 PM
Ron
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Hindsight is wonderful in providing insight, providing one is willing to
learn
from it. Those unwilling to learn from it are doomed to repeat the
experience.
The current batch of Kerry bashers haven't figured out yet that he was right
and
the rest of us who thought at the time that we belonged in that dogfight were
wrong.

George Z.


But he was not right in labeling vets as war criminals acting like Genghis
Khan, or his dubious throwing the medals story of which there are at least 4
versions given by him, or when his group he headed was sending fake vets to
testify about war crimes and atrocities.


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

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Old June 3rd 04, 06:18 PM
George Z. Bush
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Ron wrote:
Hindsight is wonderful in providing insight, providing one is willing to
learn
from it. Those unwilling to learn from it are doomed to repeat the
experience.
The current batch of Kerry bashers haven't figured out yet that he was right
and
the rest of us who thought at the time that we belonged in that dogfight were
wrong.

George Z.


But he was not right in labeling vets as war criminals acting like Genghis
Khan, or his dubious throwing the medals story of which there are at least 4
versions given by him, or when his group he headed was sending fake vets to
testify about war crimes and atrocities.


If we can forgive Cong. Henry Hyde (R-Ohio) his self-styled "youthful
indiscretion" for a five year long affair with a married mother at the age of 45
that destroyed her family, we Christian Conservatives ought to be able to
forgive Kerry for overloading his mouth when he was in his early 20s. I
seriously doubt that there are very many of us who haven't said things in our
younger days that we didn't later regret. Those who deny that they ever did
such things are merely short on memory.

George Z.


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Old June 3rd 04, 06:30 PM
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George wrote:
If we can forgive Cong. Henry Hyde (R-Ohio) his self-styled "youthful
indiscretion" for a five year long affair with a married mother at the age of
45
that destroyed her family, we Christian Conservatives ought to be able to
forgive Kerry for overloading his mouth when he was in his early 20s. I
seriously doubt that there are very many of us who haven't said things in our
younger days that we didn't later regret. Those who deny that they ever did
such things are merely short on memory.

It isn't Kerry's words of 30 years that bother me so much. I probably have been
wrong as many times if not more. What does bother me about Kerry is his
inconsistency and those damn shoes he wears....the flip flops.

oxmoron
MFE

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Old June 3rd 04, 10:12 PM
Frijoles
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I think the foreigner he was referring to was himself, not Maya Lin.

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
news

For a foreigner, it did its job.


Maya Lin was born in Athens, Ohio. Can't get more American than that!

She was a student at Yale when she won the Vietnam Memorial
competition.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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