America's Army Sucks, Fact

"robert arndt" wrote in message
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Which pale beside his achievements. Montogomery like Patton
was a prima-donna, a pain in the arse and an excellent
field commander. Like all generals he made mistakes but
got things more right than wrong.

Keith

And Rommel was better than both of them combined. If only he had the
resources in men and material that the US/Britain possessed... or at
least the Heer's PROMISED material from Berlin and not had to babysit
the Italians!
One might also wonder what would have happened if Hitler had listened
to Guderian as well???

The repetitive "If"...the continuing mantra of those who cannot accept the
fact that Germany screwed the pooch in WWII and lost. As much as I respect
Rommel, wasn't he the guy who commanded the losing side at Normandy, having
taken a quick getaway trip back to see his family when the invasion began
because he thought there was no *way* the allies would attack in that kind
of weather...?

Brooks


Rob

And Rommel was better than both of them combined. If only he had the
resources in men and material that the US/Britain possessed... or at
least the Heer's PROMISED material from Berlin and not had to babysit
the Italians!
One might also wonder what would have happened if Hitler had listened
to Guderian as well???

Yeah I bet you almost wet yourself thinking of the possibilities.


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)
Silver City Tanker Base

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
Which pale beside his achievements. Montogomery like Patton
was a prima-donna, a pain in the arse and an excellent
field commander. Like all generals he made mistakes but
got things more right than wrong.

Keith

And Rommel was better than both of them combined. If only he had the
resources in men and material that the US/Britain possessed... or at
least the Heer's PROMISED material from Berlin and not had to babysit
the Italians!
One might also wonder what would have happened if Hitler had listened
to Guderian as well???

The repetitive "If"...the continuing mantra of those who cannot accept the
fact that Germany screwed the pooch in WWII and lost. As much as I respect
Rommel, wasn't he the guy who commanded the losing side at Normandy,
having
taken a quick getaway trip back to see his family when the invasion began
because he thought there was no *way* the allies would attack in that kind
of weather...?


Not for the first time either. On the eve of the battle of El-Alamein
Rommel was ... absent on leave.

Keith

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ...
"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
Which pale beside his achievements. Montogomery like Patton
was a prima-donna, a pain in the arse and an excellent
field commander. Like all generals he made mistakes but
got things more right than wrong.

Keith

And Rommel was better than both of them combined. If only he had the
resources in men and material that the US/Britain possessed... or at
least the Heer's PROMISED material from Berlin and not had to babysit
the Italians!
One might also wonder what would have happened if Hitler had listened
to Guderian as well???

The repetitive "If"...the continuing mantra of those who cannot accept the
fact that Germany screwed the pooch in WWII and lost.

Or better those morons like you that cannot accept the fact that
Germany is the size of just 1 US state and took on the world and was
winning half the time. Then after defeat, your VICTORIOUS and SUPERIOR
armies raped the entire German nation for all of its technology
ensuring postwar victories without any real effort on your part to
develop them yourself... in areas so unimportant as say... aviation
and space technology... just to name two!




As much as I respect
Rommel, wasn't he the guy who commanded the losing side at Normandy, having
taken a quick getaway trip back to see his family when the invasion began
because he thought there was no *way* the allies would attack in that kind
of weather...?

Read a f**king history book Brooks. It was Rommel who inspected the
Atlantic Wall and criticized its lack of any strategic depth. He made
a short but futile attempt to rectify parts of the wall realizing that
the armored reserves would be needed in the first 48 hrs to throw the
invaders back from Normandy. Hitler refused to allow Rommel to move
them closer to the coast.
And criticizing a man of such dignity that he chose to take poison to
save his family and not dishonor his nation (Germany, not Hitler nor
the Nazi Party) is
repugnant even for a ******* like you. Rommel wanted the war to end
and Hitler dead as Hitler was to him a greater threat to Germany than
the Allies. WTF more do you want from the guy? He is a true hero for
mankind, a man of honor respected by friend and foe alike.
You Brooks, OTOH, are a jackass.

Rob

p.s. Can't wait for the two pinheads to chime in too- Keith Willshaw
and Al Minyard.

Brooks


Rob

"robert arndt" wrote

Or better those morons like you that cannot accept the fact that
Germany is the size of just 1 US state and took on the world and was
winning half the time.

Maybe that wasn't the smartest thing to do.

Pete

Or better those morons like you that cannot accept the fact that
Germany is the size of just 1 US state and took on the world and was
winning half the time. Then after defeat, your VICTORIOUS and SUPERIOR
armies raped the entire German nation for all of its technology
ensuring postwar victories with

Oh Boy,I wonder if you'd ever seen Hollywood productions.
If you watched them you would have learned by now that imbecile
looking,incompetent German hordes were defeated by a few American Heroes,each
10 ft tall and has IQ over 180.
Needless to say the quality and capabilities of their equipment were even
beyond the imagination of stupid Germans.

Read a f**king history book Brooks. It was Rommel who inspected the
Atlantic Wall and criticized its lack of any strategic depth. He made
a short but futile attempt to rectify parts of the wall realizing that
the armored reserves would be needed in the first 48 hrs to throw the

I have serious doubts here.
At least one German cabinet member,Ribbentrop,had detailed plans of Operation
Overlord.
Thats a fact.

The Rommel is the one who personally convinced Hitler that the assauly could
come only from Calais and made Hitler believe that the document showing the
details of Operating Overlord was a deliberate British diversion attempt.

We may never know why Rommel misled Hitler,did he honestly believe that Calais
was the target ?,or something else,but I believe his execution or suicide has
more to do with the events just before Normandy Landings than events in July.

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(robert arndt) wrote:

Or better those morons like you that cannot accept the fact that
Germany is the size of just 1 US state and took on the world and was
winning half the time.

....after building up its military and industrial base for a number of
years, then attacking everyone around them in a cowardly move (which
made up all of the "wins"). Then, when they could have just assimilated
the rest of western Europe, they attacked Russia (dumb) and lost the
war, despite having a hellaciously good defensive position in the
Channel.

....and they got beat, basically, by a bunch of jeeps, trucks, and
cheaply-made tanks, mostly from a country that had a fraction of the
German industrial capacity at the start of the war, and no effective
military. Which they built in a couple of years, learned how to use,
and proceeded to kick the crap out the Germans with.

When it comes to actual fights, instead of sneak attacks, the Germans
are, well, really bad at war.

Yeah, those Germans... inventive, but so stupid when it comes to
practical stuff. They'd do so much better if they'd learn how to wage
wars before starting them.

Then after defeat, your VICTORIOUS and SUPERIOR
armies raped the entire German nation for all of its technology

....that didn't do much good for over a decade. Too bad those dumbass
Germans spent all of their time working on cool but prohibitively
expensive "vengeance weapons" and spent a *lot* of effort killing off a
few million of their own citizens, instead of learning how to actually
fight wars or organizing the defense of their continental redoubt.

What is it about Germany that keeps them from raising decent leaders?

It's like giving the school bully an RPG.

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In message , Chad Irby
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In article ,
(robert arndt) wrote:
Or better those morons like you that cannot accept the fact that
Germany is the size of just 1 US state and took on the world and was
winning half the time.

...after building up its military and industrial base for a number of
years, then attacking everyone around them in a cowardly move (which
made up all of the "wins"). Then, when they could have just assimilated
the rest of western Europe, they attacked Russia (dumb) and lost the
war, despite having a hellaciously good defensive position in the
Channel.

Mr Irby,

We may differ on some issues, but I find us in complete agreement here.

--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

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"Paul J. Adam" wrote:

Mr Irby,

We may differ on some issues, but I find us in complete agreement here.

....and you *know* someone's out on a limb when that happens...

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In article , robert
arndt writes
"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"robert arndt" wrote in message
om...
Which pale beside his achievements. Montogomery like Patton
was a prima-donna, a pain in the arse and an excellent
field commander. Like all generals he made mistakes but
got things more right than wrong.

Keith

And Rommel was better than both of them combined. If only he had the
resources in men and material that the US/Britain possessed... or at
least the Heer's PROMISED material from Berlin and not had to babysit
the Italians!
One might also wonder what would have happened if Hitler had listened
to Guderian as well???

The repetitive "If"...the continuing mantra of those who cannot accept the
fact that Germany screwed the pooch in WWII and lost.

Or better those morons like you that cannot accept the fact that
Germany is the size of just 1 US state and took on the world and was
winning half the time. Then after defeat, your VICTORIOUS and SUPERIOR
armies raped the entire German nation for all of its technology
ensuring postwar victories without any real effort on your part to
develop them yourself... in areas so unimportant as say... aviation
and space technology... just to name two!


Oh, of course, we forgot about the evil Yankees and the vicious
Engländer stripping the resources of the innocent German people, whose
glorious achievements in conquering the lesser nations of the world were
such an example to us all. Fe

What's size got to do with it? US states didn't pursue an aggressive
foreign policy of conquest or a domestic policy of terror.

Face facts, you blinkered apologist. Hitler's military and scientific
"achievements" were mostly short-term and impractical, and were paid for
in terms of blood and suffering. Few areas of research were not being
pursued in Allied countries as well.


As much as I respect
Rommel, wasn't he the guy who commanded the losing side at Normandy, having
taken a quick getaway trip back to see his family when the invasion began
because he thought there was no *way* the allies would attack in that kind
of weather...?

Read a f**king history book Brooks. It was Rommel who inspected the
Atlantic Wall and criticized its lack of any strategic depth. He made
a short but futile attempt to rectify parts of the wall realizing that
the armored reserves would be needed in the first 48 hrs to throw the
invaders back from Normandy. Hitler refused to allow Rommel to move
them closer to the coast.
And criticizing a man of such dignity that he chose to take poison to
save his family and not dishonor his nation (Germany, not Hitler nor
the Nazi Party) is
repugnant even for a ******* like you. Rommel wanted the war to end
and Hitler dead as Hitler was to him a greater threat to Germany than
the Allies. WTF more do you want from the guy? He is a true hero for
mankind, a man of honor respected by friend and foe alike.
You Brooks, OTOH, are a jackass.


If he was such an honourable man, what was he doing serving Hitler in
the first place?

The Allies were only a threat to Germany, as you put it, because Germany
was such a threat to the rest of the world. France and the UK declared
war on Germany, but only because Germany invaded Poland.

Rob

p.s. Can't wait for the two pinheads to chime in too- Keith Willshaw
and Al Minyard.


Is it any wonder that many people regard the Germans as arrogant?

Brooks


Rob

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