Don't point RPGs at US soldiers!

On 18 Jun 2004 07:31:51 GMT, (Dav1936531) wrote:

Looks like that guy gets one through the chest and a quick follow-up head shot.
Great shooting by whomever. But...I think a couple of rounds to his RPG
launcher are in order to deactivate it from being picked up and used by someone
else.
The speed of the sucessive shots leads me to believe that this guy was not the
victim of a US Marine sniper, since most of them are using bolt action rifles
from my understanding. The shots just seem to come too quickly to have cycled
the bolt that fast (could be wrong though).

I'd say he was planning hit a squad of Marines, or a Humvee or APC or
similar, but they saw him first and he found himself staring down the
barrels of a few US Marines...

Further, the sniper may have been able to lure the dead guy's compatriots out
into the street had he held off firing the follow up kill shot to the head.
Just wound the guy on the first shot and wait for his buddies to come out and
"rescue" him.......and then drill them all too. Make a pile of them in the
street......however, the insurgent fighters may be "on" to that tactic already.

I'm still trying to figure out why he was in the middle of a street,
no cover, no camo... stupid, stupid, stupid...

From: Nuk


I'd say he was planning hit a squad of Marines, or a Humvee or APC or
similar, but they saw him first and he found himself staring down the
barrels of a few US Marines...

Nah, you can see the bullets kick up clouds of dust in the street from both the
chest and head shots. Whomever got him plainly shot him from a roof top, i.e.,
it was probably a sniper watching over a patrol....not a patroller.

As I mentioned before, I think the Marine snipers are using bolt actions,
however, I have seen some pics of US Army snipers carrying tricked up M-14
sniper variants. I am thinking this guy was had by an Army sniper because of
the quick follow-up shot. Consequently, I also doubt this video is from the
Fallujah action, since it was the Marines laying siege in Fallujah.

I'm still trying to figure out why he was in the middle of a street,
no cover, no camo... stupid, stupid, stupid...

It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part.

One wonders just exactly what the insurgents even think they are trying to
accomplish. What will surely result if they gain supremacy is chaos, civil war,
and the weakening of Iraq making it a tempting invasion target for the likes of
Iran. So, if they think they are fighting for the good of Iraq, they are merely
deluding themselves.
Dave

Dav1936531 wrote:
It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part.



I've heard that before, but that doesn't explain why his buddies weren't
fighting over the opportunity to join him in Paradise. I am reminded of when
Arafat was holed up in his office whining about how he wanted to become a martyr
when all that was required was for him to step out into the hall brandishing a
pistol. These brave fellows sure talk the talk; I just don't see that many
walking the walk.

And as this courageous freedom fighter just demonstrated, the Law of Natural
Selection plays no favorites.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN


http://www.mortimerschnerd.com

I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer
rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of
the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq?

--
Regards
Drewe
"Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"

Drewe Manton wrote:
: I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
: weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3
: tracer rounds.

I totally concur with that. The tracer rounds were a dead (pun
intended) giveaway.

: Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the
: language of the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather
: than Iraq?

Don't know about the actual camera team, but the footage as seen in this
clip is from a TV channel here in Spain called "Tele Cinco." I oughta
know, because I watch it daily and was rather stunned by this clip when
I saw it for the first time the other day. I wonder if the American
media broadcast this in the states?

As for what the commentator is saying, he sort of got cut off in mid
sentence. He says: "The death live (as your seeing it) was transformed
there as usual what occurs daily. This occured in a suburb of Bhagdad."
Sorry about the translation, but there was no way to do it
word-for-word.

Later.

J.

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"Drewe Manton" wrote in message
. 4...
I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer
rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of
the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq?

--
Regards
Drewe
"Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world
Than the pride that divides
When a colourful rag is unfurled"


No doubt about it, pretty sure it was a SAW. I've shot and heard enough of
'em to recognize it.


T3


btw-It was in Iraq

From: "T3"
Date: 6/18/04 9:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

No doubt about it, pretty sure it was a SAW. I've shot and heard enough of
'em to recognize it.


T3

I agree. Unfortunately, I watched the clip with no speakers turned on and
missed the tracer when I first saw the clip.
Dave

On 18 Jun 2004 12:00:25 GMT, Drewe Manton
wrote:

I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer
rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of
the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq?

Possibly a M249? with a 1 in 5 tracer round maybe?

I've also seen recently another video (do you think I can find it!) of
an Iraqi firing what looks like a 50 cal from the hip, he squeezes off
a burst, then ducks back out of the way when something nearly nails
him... you can see the impact/ricochet of the incoming round...

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 01:30:13 +1000, Nuk wrote:

On 18 Jun 2004 12:00:25 GMT, Drewe Manton
wrote:

I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer
rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of
the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq?

Possibly a M249? with a 1 in 5 tracer round maybe?

I've also seen recently another video (do you think I can find it!) of
an Iraqi firing what looks like a 50 cal from the hip, he squeezes off
a burst, then ducks back out of the way when something nearly nails
him... you can see the impact/ricochet of the incoming round...

If he can shoot MaDeuce from the hip, he doesn't NEED a weapon.

Al Minyard

If he can shoot MaDeuce from the hip, he doesn't NEED a weapon.

Even Sgt Rock could only do that with a water-cooled .30! I don't think a
person could heft a gen-yew-wine M-2 .50 and actually shoot it "as God
intended". Sure were a lot of fun to shoot, but I prefer it hard mounted, to a
ship, preferably.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR

Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine.