Don't point RPGs at US soldiers!

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 01:30:13 +1000, Nuk wrote:

On 18 Jun 2004 12:00:25 GMT, Drewe Manton
wrote:

I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer
rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of
the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq?

Possibly a M249? with a 1 in 5 tracer round maybe?

I've also seen recently another video (do you think I can find it!) of
an Iraqi firing what looks like a 50 cal from the hip, he squeezes off
a burst, then ducks back out of the way when something nearly nails
him... you can see the impact/ricochet of the incoming round...

I know, it probably wasn't a 50cal, but it looked 'frickin
heavy'(tm)...

Someone, somewhere has seen this video...
I might do a trawl through eMule and see what I come up with...

From: Drewe Manton
Date: 6/18/04 8:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer
rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of the
news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq?
Drewe

Yeah, I didn't see the tracer until I ran it through slo-mo style frame by
frame. And I didn't play it with my speakers turned on either, so I didn't hear
the sound of auto weapons fire.

Definately a SAW with the bullets exiting at wierd angles after hitting the
guy.
Dave
Dave

On 18 Jun 2004 12:00:25 GMT, Drewe Manton
wrote:

I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3 tracer
rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of
the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq?

who's the guy who walks out from the back ground?, a 'contractor'?

John Cook

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On 18 Jun 2004 12:00:25 GMT, Drewe Manton
wrote:

I'm not even convinced it was a sniper shot. . .looked like automatic
weapons fire to me. . repeated shooting and I picked out 2, maybe 3
tracer
rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the language of
the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather than Iraq?

who's the guy who walks out from the back ground?, a 'contractor'?

John Cook

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opinions are mine, not TAFE's however much they beg me for them.

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Probably his buddy, as you noticed he didn't go "to" far out of the alley,
so much for brothers in arms, huh?
You gotta love these a**holes, heros all..........

T3

btw- If a SAW had just cut down my "buddy" in like three seconds, I'd be
real careful also, wouldn't you?
Actually, the guy was probably beatfeeting out of there and could've
qualified for the Olympic team....

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rounds. Do we even know where it was taken (I don't speak the
language of the news reporter!).. might it have been Israel rather
than Iraq?

Language was Spanish I think.

who's the guy who walks out from the back ground?, a 'contractor'?

Might be a journalist.

Anybody know if the shootee had popped off a round and was
maybe awaiting reload when he got the "Come To Jesus".

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"Dav1936531" wrote in message
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From: Nuk


I'd say he was planning hit a squad of Marines, or a Humvee or APC or
similar, but they saw him first and he found himself staring down the
barrels of a few US Marines...

Nah, you can see the bullets kick up clouds of dust in the street from
both the
chest and head shots. Whomever got him plainly shot him from a roof top,
i.e.,
it was probably a sniper watching over a patrol....not a patroller.

As I mentioned before, I think the Marine snipers are using bolt actions,
however, I have seen some pics of US Army snipers carrying tricked up M-14
sniper variants. I am thinking this guy was had by an Army sniper because
of
the quick follow-up shot. Consequently, I also doubt this video is from
the
Fallujah action, since it was the Marines laying siege in Fallujah.

I'm still trying to figure out why he was in the middle of a street,
no cover, no camo... stupid, stupid, stupid...

It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part.

One wonders just exactly what the insurgents even think they are trying to
accomplish. What will surely result if they gain supremacy is chaos, civil
war,
and the weakening of Iraq making it a tempting invasion target for the
likes of
Iran. So, if they think they are fighting for the good of Iraq, they are
merely
deluding themselves.
Dave


I'm not so sure, it sounded and awful lot like a SAW. Counted nine or ten
shots fired, looks like the first couple severed his spine. The rest, chest
and head, Great shooting!!

T3

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"Dav1936531" wrote in message
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From: Nuk


I'd say he was planning hit a squad of Marines, or a Humvee or APC or
similar, but they saw him first and he found himself staring down the
barrels of a few US Marines...

Nah, you can see the bullets kick up clouds of dust in the street from
both the
chest and head shots. Whomever got him plainly shot him from a roof top,
i.e.,
it was probably a sniper watching over a patrol....not a patroller.

As I mentioned before, I think the Marine snipers are using bolt
actions,
however, I have seen some pics of US Army snipers carrying tricked up
M-14
sniper variants. I am thinking this guy was had by an Army sniper
because
of
the quick follow-up shot. Consequently, I also doubt this video is from
the
Fallujah action, since it was the Marines laying siege in Fallujah.

I'm still trying to figure out why he was in the middle of a street,
no cover, no camo... stupid, stupid, stupid...

It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part.

One wonders just exactly what the insurgents even think they are trying
to
accomplish. What will surely result if they gain supremacy is chaos,
civil
war,
and the weakening of Iraq making it a tempting invasion target for the
likes of
Iran. So, if they think they are fighting for the good of Iraq, they are
merely
deluding themselves.
Dave


I'm not so sure, it sounded and awful lot like a SAW. Counted nine or ten
shots fired, looks like the first couple severed his spine. The rest,
chest
and head, Great shooting!!

I'd bet you are right about the weapon being used; SAW with standard
intermittent tracer load.

Brooks


T3

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"Dav1936531" wrote in message
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From: Nuk


I'd say he was planning hit a squad of Marines, or a Humvee or APC or
similar, but they saw him first and he found himself staring down the
barrels of a few US Marines...

Nah, you can see the bullets kick up clouds of dust in the street from
both the
chest and head shots. Whomever got him plainly shot him from a roof
top,
i.e.,
it was probably a sniper watching over a patrol....not a patroller.

As I mentioned before, I think the Marine snipers are using bolt
actions,
however, I have seen some pics of US Army snipers carrying tricked up
M-14
sniper variants. I am thinking this guy was had by an Army sniper
because
of
the quick follow-up shot. Consequently, I also doubt this video is
from
the
Fallujah action, since it was the Marines laying siege in Fallujah.

I'm still trying to figure out why he was in the middle of a street,
no cover, no camo... stupid, stupid, stupid...

It's a "jihad" for Allah. Rationality plays little part.

One wonders just exactly what the insurgents even think they are
trying
to
accomplish. What will surely result if they gain supremacy is chaos,
civil
war,
and the weakening of Iraq making it a tempting invasion target for the
likes of
Iran. So, if they think they are fighting for the good of Iraq, they
are
merely
deluding themselves.
Dave


I'm not so sure, it sounded and awful lot like a SAW. Counted nine or
ten
shots fired, looks like the first couple severed his spine. The rest,
chest
and head, Great shooting!!

I'd bet you are right about the weapon being used; SAW with standard
intermittent tracer load.

Brooks




That's how I figured it, except maybe what we're thinking were tracers were
actually ricochets off the road. But you know what, that is one dead M'fer
that our guys won't have to deal with again.....


T3

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Dave


I'm not so sure, it sounded and awful lot like a SAW. Counted nine or ten
shots fired, looks like the first couple severed his spine. The rest,
chest
and head, Great shooting!!

T3
For those of you who are wondering what SAW is (I was), it's Squad Automatic
Weapon.

http://www.ndu.edu/nwc/nwcCLIPART/US...W/army-saw.htm

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:40:18 GMT, "It's Me Again"
wrote:

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Dave


I'm not so sure, it sounded and awful lot like a SAW. Counted nine or ten
shots fired, looks like the first couple severed his spine. The rest,
chest
and head, Great shooting!!

T3
For those of you who are wondering what SAW is (I was), it's Squad Automatic
Weapon.

http://www.ndu.edu/nwc/nwcCLIPART/US...W/army-saw.htm




Anybody whose ever played Counterstrike knows what that baby is :-)
That and the Barrett Arms 0.50 cal sniper rifle. Nobody likes an AWP
Whore (sniper with the fifty).