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AOPA has a good article called: Stall/spin: Entry point for crash and burn?
Available he https://www.aopa.org/asf/ntsb/stall_spin.html
In 1949 the FAA removed the requirement for spin training for private pilots, substituting increased training in stall recognition and recovery, since spins cannot occur without a stall. After the elimination of the spin requirement for private pilots, the incidence of stall/spin accidents actually decreased substantially.
In reviewing 44 fatal stall/spin accidents from 1991 - 2000 and classified as instructional, the Air Safety Foundation found that a shocking 91%(40) of them occurred during dual instruction, with only 9% (4) solo training flights.
The biggest problem is where stall/spin accidents occur. Up high, time to recover. In the pattern, no.

Originally Posted by Keith M

AOPA has a good article called: Stall/spin: Entry point for crash and burn?
Available he https://www.aopa.org/asf/ntsb/stall_spin.html
In 1949 the FAA removed the requirement for spin training for private pilots, substituting increased training in stall recognition and recovery, since spins cannot occur without a stall. After the elimination of the spin requirement for private pilots, the incidence of stall/spin accidents actually decreased substantially.
In reviewing 44 fatal stall/spin accidents from 1991 - 2000 and classified as instructional, the Air Safety Foundation found that a shocking 91%(40) of them occurred during dual instruction, with only 9% (4) solo training flights.
The biggest problem is where stall/spin accidents occur. Up high, time to recover. In the pattern, no.

So we really need to spend more time training and practicing stalls and spins in the pattern, right? What could go wrong?

Srsly, if spin training at altitude isn't really much the cause of accidents, then why did eliminating that do much to reduce the number of such accidents? Presumably, it's the increased emphasis on incipient recognition/recovery that did that, but I recall doing that when I took some power lessons 45 years ago too, and in glider lessons 40 years ago.

-- J. J.
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