Rescue Aid

2G wrote on 7/17/2018 6:22 PM:
Water is the ONE thing you CAN'T do without. It's a nuisance to strap to your parachute, but sit out in 90+ degree temperatures and see how long you can go without taking a drink.
PS. Bring your own shade in the form of an emergency blanket - they are very compact.
How much water, and how do you strap it to your parachute?

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

You don't have to strap it to your parachute.Â* Simply empty the can into
your pants pocket and go fly.Â* If you don't land out, transfer the
contents of your pocket back to the can.

On 7/18/2018 2:26 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
2G wrote on 7/17/2018 6:22 PM:
Water is the ONE thing you CAN'T do without. It's a nuisance to strap
to your parachute, but sit out in 90+ degree temperatures and see how
long you can go without taking a drink.
PS. Bring your own shade in the form of an emergency blanket - they
are very compact.
How much water, and how do you strap it to your parachute?


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Dan, 5J

On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 6:03:16 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
You don't have to strap it to your parachute.Â* Simply empty the can into
your pants pocket and go fly.Â* If you don't land out, transfer the
contents of your pocket back to the can.

On 7/18/2018 2:26 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
2G wrote on 7/17/2018 6:22 PM:
Water is the ONE thing you CAN'T do without. It's a nuisance to strap
to your parachute, but sit out in 90+ degree temperatures and see how
long you can go without taking a drink.
PS. Bring your own shade in the form of an emergency blanket - they
are very compact.
How much water, and how do you strap it to your parachute?


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Dan, 5J

I fly with a "smak pack" with the water pouches, headlamp, wire saw (also have one in bracelet) water purification tablets, Qwick Clot bandages, fire starter material and a few gel energy packs for biking)

http://www.bestglide.com/mainstay_emergency_water.html

https://www.wazoosurvivalgear.com/bracelets/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Two problems: 1) I keep my phone in my pocket, so it'd get wet; 2) can't get water
in a can in this area, only plastic bottles (even Amazon won't ship cans here).
But it got me thinking: I could strap a quart plastic bottle just above each
ankle, and hardly notice it. Velcro strap, zip ties, duct tape - need figure out
the best method. Or maybe really baggy "cargo pants", and put the bottles in the
leg pockets.

Dan Marotta wrote on 7/18/2018 6:03 PM:
You don't have to strap it to your parachute. Simply empty the can into your
pants pocket and go fly. If you don't land out, transfer the contents of your
pocket back to the can.

On 7/18/2018 2:26 PM, Eric Greenwell wrote:
2G wrote on 7/17/2018 6:22 PM:
Water is the ONE thing you CAN'T do without. It's a nuisance to strap to your
parachute, but sit out in 90+ degree temperatures and see how long you can go
without taking a drink.
PS. Bring your own shade in the form of an emergency blanket - they are very
compact.
How much water, and how do you strap it to your parachute?

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

How about a Stillsuit?
They're available at Harkonnen's in Tonopah.
Sorry, Graham.
Jim

For those of us that have a Ballistic Recovery Systen, bailout water poses no problem. Just take a sip after stabilized under chute, then make a May Day call, if appropriate, then whip out my cell phone and call the wife............will be a bit late for supper, dear!
� JJ

wrote on 7/19/2018 11:02 AM:
For those of us that have a Ballistic Recovery Systen, bailout water poses no problem. Just take a sip after stabilized under chute, then make a May Day call, if appropriate, then whip out my cell phone and call the wife............will be a bit late for supper, dear!
� JJ

I love that feature in my Phoenix, and it's one reason my wife is willing to fly
in it! But, sigh, not available in most sailplanes, especially self-launchers.

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
2G wrote on 7/17/2018 6:22 PM:
Water is the ONE thing you CAN'T do without. It's a nuisance to strap to your parachute, but sit out in 90+ degree temperatures and see how long you can go without taking a drink.
PS. Bring your own shade in the form of an emergency blanket - they are very compact.
How much water, and how do you strap it to your parachute?

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf

Put a water bottle in your fanny pack. Or you could spread out your parachute canopy and pray for rain.

Tom

Put a water bottle in your fanny pack. Or you could spread out your parachute canopy and pray for rain

Both good ideas, in principle, but fanny packs were outlawed in the late '80s before water bottles were invented....and FAR Part 91.307 does not permit one to use a parachute for emergency purposes (this would include its use as a vessel to collect rainwater) unless it had been repacked within the previous 180 days. You just deployed it, so you're screwed ala Catch-22. A much better idea is to always carry ballast water in your tail tank. Dual purpose solution; the ship will have both a safe CG and since you cannot consume the tank water during flight, you'll always have some in reserve just in case of a land/crash out. Make sure you don't drain too much out, since the NTSB guy will cite you for improper W&B.

Duster wrote on 7/18/2018 8:57 PM:

Put a water bottle in your fanny pack. Or you could spread out your parachute canopy and pray for rain

Both good ideas, in principle, but fanny packs were outlawed in the late '80s before water bottles were invented....and FAR Part 91.307 does not permit one to use a parachute for emergency purposes (this would include its use as a vessel to collect rainwater) unless it had been repacked within the previous 180 days. You just deployed it, so you're screwed ala Catch-22. A much better idea is to always carry ballast water in your tail tank. Dual purpose solution; the ship will have both a safe CG and since you cannot consume the tank water during flight, you'll always have some in reserve just in case of a land/crash out. Make sure you don't drain too much out, since the NTSB guy will cite you for improper W&B.

I carry plenty of water in glider for use after a landout; so my problem is
getting water after a bail out. And, I have an STC for my fanny pack, so it's
still a potential option

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf