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Old July 3rd 03, 03:17 PM
RobertR237
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In article , "Bruce A. Frank"
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The wrap works to reduce heat in the engine compartment but tends to
accelerate the deterioration of exhaust systems because the heat is held
in the pipes. Also the ceramic cloth holds moisture when the engine
isn't running and collects all oil spills to smoke like crazy when the
engine is running. The wrap is available less expensively from outlets
such as J.C. Whittney. Bob's suggestion of ceramic coating is a good.
The coating is usually both internal and external, protects the steel of
the exhaust system and smoothes the flow of exhaust gasses. It also
reduces under cowl temps but I do not know how it compares to the wrap.
The draw back is that the ceramic coating costs a good bit more than the
wrap.



I would agree that the upfront cost of the ceramic coatings are more but would
question the long term cost differences. I believe the long term benefits of
the ceramic coating will totally offset the costs.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

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Old July 3rd 03, 03:46 PM
Richard Lamb
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RobertR237 wrote:

In article , "Bruce A. Frank"
writes:


The wrap works to reduce heat in the engine compartment but tends to
accelerate the deterioration of exhaust systems because the heat is held
in the pipes. Also the ceramic cloth holds moisture when the engine
isn't running and collects all oil spills to smoke like crazy when the
engine is running. The wrap is available less expensively from outlets
such as J.C. Whittney. Bob's suggestion of ceramic coating is a good.
The coating is usually both internal and external, protects the steel of
the exhaust system and smoothes the flow of exhaust gasses. It also
reduces under cowl temps but I do not know how it compares to the wrap.
The draw back is that the ceramic coating costs a good bit more than the
wrap.



I would agree that the upfront cost of the ceramic coatings are more but would
question the long term cost differences. I believe the long term benefits of
the ceramic coating will totally offset the costs.


Probably true if you farm it out, but the DIY bottle cost $19.95
in AS&S catalog...

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

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Old July 3rd 03, 09:35 PM
RobertR237
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In article , Richard Lamb
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I would agree that the upfront cost of the ceramic coatings are more but

would
question the long term cost differences. I believe the long term benefits

of
the ceramic coating will totally offset the costs.


Probably true if you farm it out, but the DIY bottle cost $19.95
in AS&S catalog...



Two questions on the DIY application. How does it compare to the professional
application which is bead blasted before application and baked on? Can the DIY
be applied to the inside of the pipes as well as the outside?


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

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Old July 3rd 03, 10:14 PM
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"RobertR237" wrote in message Can the DIY
be applied to the inside of the pipes as well as the outside?


Bob Reed


Yes
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Old July 3rd 03, 11:03 PM
Richard Lamb
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Don't see why it wouldn't work inside as well.
Would certainly reduce internal rust.

The pipes need to be blasted before treatment.
Any (and ALL) imperfections will show up.

Then an acetone wipe to remove finger prints, etc.

Spray on a thin layer of the ceramic "paint"
and bake at 500 degrees for an hour.

I did it in the kitchen oven - no noticible odor
other than the smell of a very hot oven!

Lastly, when cooled, burnish with fine steel wool to
clean off the outer residue, and produce a beautiful
luster. Not quite chromed looking.

There is also a black version that is a little different.
Clean and spray, then start the engine and bring the pipes
up to temp to bake it on.

Check the description in AS&S catalog.

Richard

RobertR237 wrote:

In article , Richard Lamb
writes:


I would agree that the upfront cost of the ceramic coatings are more but

would
question the long term cost differences. I believe the long term benefits

of
the ceramic coating will totally offset the costs.


Probably true if you farm it out, but the DIY bottle cost $19.95
in AS&S catalog...



Two questions on the DIY application. How does it compare to the professional
application which is bead blasted before application and baked on? Can the DIY
be applied to the inside of the pipes as well as the outside?

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

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Old July 9th 03, 07:20 AM
Bruce A. Frank
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If I fabricate with stainless I'll probably wrap with the ceramic tape.
If I build from mild steel I will probably go with the coating.

Bruce A. Frank

RobertR237 wrote:
In article , "Bruce A. Frank"
writes:


The wrap works to reduce heat in the engine compartment but tends to
accelerate the deterioration of exhaust systems because the heat is held
in the pipes. Also the ceramic cloth holds moisture when the engine
isn't running and collects all oil spills to smoke like crazy when the
engine is running. The wrap is available less expensively from outlets
such as J.C. Whittney. Bob's suggestion of ceramic coating is a good.
The coating is usually both internal and external, protects the steel of
the exhaust system and smoothes the flow of exhaust gasses. It also
reduces under cowl temps but I do not know how it compares to the wrap.
The draw back is that the ceramic coating costs a good bit more than the
wrap.




I would agree that the upfront cost of the ceramic coatings are more but would
question the long term cost differences. I believe the long term benefits of
the ceramic coating will totally offset the costs.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)


 




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