Lot of noise being made about Purple Hearts

Ed Rasimus wrote:

snip


Yet another problem is the very clear application of the 527 loophole
by Kerry supporters (can you say "moveon.org"?) then squealing when
his own ox takes a goring.

moveon.org is not a 527, it predates the legislation, having been started during the Clinton impeachment furor.
It is a PAC, with full disclosure of donors.

Bob McKellar, proud owner of a very bad fitness report signed by a SBVT member

"Bob McKellar" wrote:
Ed Rasimus wrote:

snip


Yet another problem is the very clear application of the 527 loophole
by Kerry supporters (can you say "moveon.org"?) then squealing when
his own ox takes a goring.

moveon.org is not a 527, it predates the legislation, having been started
during the Clinton impeachment furor.
It is a PAC, with full disclosure of donors.

"moveon.org" operates under the provisions of Internal Revenue Code 26
U.S.C. Section 527.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...tle=26&sec=527

Brett wrote:

"Bob McKellar" wrote:
Ed Rasimus wrote:

snip


Yet another problem is the very clear application of the 527 loophole
by Kerry supporters (can you say "moveon.org"?) then squealing when
his own ox takes a goring.

moveon.org is not a 527, it predates the legislation, having been started
during the Clinton impeachment furor.
It is a PAC, with full disclosure of donors.

"moveon.org" operates under the provisions of Internal Revenue Code 26
U.S.C. Section 527.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...tle=26&sec=527

Partially correct:

From www.moveon.org/about

The MoveOn family of organizations consists of three entities. MoveOn.org, a
501(c)(4) organization, primarily focuses on education and advocacy on
important national issues. MoveOn PAC, a federal PAC, primarily helps members
elect candidates who reflect our values. And MoveOn.org Voter Fund, a 527
organization, primarily educates voters on the positions, records, views, and
qualifications of candidates for public office.

Bob

"Bob McKellar" wrote:
Brett wrote:

"Bob McKellar" wrote:
Ed Rasimus wrote:

snip


Yet another problem is the very clear application of the 527
loophole
by Kerry supporters (can you say "moveon.org"?) then squealing when
his own ox takes a goring.

moveon.org is not a 527, it predates the legislation, having been
started
during the Clinton impeachment furor.
It is a PAC, with full disclosure of donors.

"moveon.org" operates under the provisions of Internal Revenue Code 26
U.S.C. Section 527.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...tle=26&sec=527

Partially correct:

Which is a change in your previous position where you told Ed Rasimus that
it was only a PAC. It's "primary operations" since Bush was elected have
been the supported by the bottomless pit "voter fund" sponsors Soros, Lewis,
Bing..... that group of "three" are also the primary sponsors of several
other questionable 527's, "Joint Victory Campaign", "Media Fund", "America
Coming Together".....

From www.moveon.org/about

The MoveOn family of organizations consists of three entities. MoveOn.org,
a
501(c)(4) organization, primarily focuses on education and advocacy on
important national issues. MoveOn PAC, a federal PAC, primarily helps
members
elect candidates who reflect our values. And MoveOn.org Voter Fund, a 527
organization, primarily educates voters on the positions, records, views,
and
qualifications of candidates for public office.

Bob

Brett wrote:

"Bob McKellar" wrote:
Brett wrote:

"Bob McKellar" wrote:
Ed Rasimus wrote:

snip


Yet another problem is the very clear application of the 527
loophole
by Kerry supporters (can you say "moveon.org"?) then squealing when
his own ox takes a goring.

moveon.org is not a 527, it predates the legislation, having been
started
during the Clinton impeachment furor.
It is a PAC, with full disclosure of donors.

"moveon.org" operates under the provisions of Internal Revenue Code 26
U.S.C. Section 527.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...tle=26&sec=527

Partially correct:

Which is a change in your previous position where you told Ed Rasimus that
it was only a PAC. It's "primary operations" since Bush was elected have
been the supported by the bottomless pit "voter fund" sponsors Soros, Lewis,
Bing..... that group of "three" are also the primary sponsors of several
other questionable 527's, "Joint Victory Campaign", "Media Fund", "America
Coming Together".....


Yes, I knew that moveon.org was an earlier manifestation, but I had never been
to their web site until after your clever post quoting the IRS code.

When I went there, I discovered a new activity of moveon.org, which was indeed a
527, as I stated. I learn new things all the time.

Is it your position that most 527's are left leaning, using the Democrats'
superior finances to battle the impoverished Republicans?

Are you interested in Republican leaning 527's such as the one founded to
finance the Bush recount efforts in Florida/2000?

Bob

"Bob McKellar" wrote:
Brett wrote:

"Bob McKellar" wrote:
Brett wrote:

"Bob McKellar" wrote:
Ed Rasimus wrote:

snip


Yet another problem is the very clear application of the 527
loophole
by Kerry supporters (can you say "moveon.org"?) then squealing
when
his own ox takes a goring.

moveon.org is not a 527, it predates the legislation, having been
started
during the Clinton impeachment furor.
It is a PAC, with full disclosure of donors.

"moveon.org" operates under the provisions of Internal Revenue Code
26
U.S.C. Section 527.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...tle=26&sec=527

Partially correct:

Which is a change in your previous position where you told Ed Rasimus
that
it was only a PAC. It's "primary operations" since Bush was elected have
been the supported by the bottomless pit "voter fund" sponsors Soros,
Lewis,
Bing..... that group of "three" are also the primary sponsors of several
other questionable 527's, "Joint Victory Campaign", "Media Fund",
"America
Coming Together".....


Yes, I knew that moveon.org was an earlier manifestation, but I had never
been
to their web site until after your clever post quoting the IRS code.

When I went there, I discovered a new activity of moveon.org, which was
indeed a
527, as I stated. I learn new things all the time.

Is it your position that most 527's are left leaning, using the Democrats'
superior finances to battle the impoverished Republicans?

No my position is that what you had originally posted was garbage.

Bob McKellar wrote:
Brett wrote:

moveon.org is not a 527, it predates the legislation, having been
started
during the Clinton impeachment furor.
It is a PAC, with full disclosure of donors.

"moveon.org" operates under the provisions of Internal Revenue Code
26 U.S.C. Section 527.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...tle=26&sec=527

Partially correct:

From www.moveon.org/about

The MoveOn family of organizations consists of three entities.
MoveOn.org, a 501(c)(4) organization, primarily focuses on education
and advocacy on important national issues. MoveOn PAC, a federal PAC,
primarily helps members elect candidates who reflect our values. And
MoveOn.org Voter Fund, a 527 organization, primarily educates voters
on the positions, records, views, and qualifications of candidates
for public office.

Anyone think we should get rid of every last drop of this campaign finance
mumbo jumbo and just say "look, you can't have money from foriegners, and
you have to show where it all came from"?

"sanjian" wrote in message
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Anyone think we should get rid of every last drop of this campaign finance
mumbo jumbo and just say "look, you can't have money from foriegners, and
you have to show where it all came from"?


Absolutely! Hell, I don't even care if a candidate takes money from
foreigners, as long as there's full disclosure.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"sanjian" wrote in message
news:wNxWc.99388$Lj.5353@fed1read03...

Anyone think we should get rid of every last drop of this campaign
finance mumbo jumbo and just say "look, you can't have money from
foriegners, and you have to show where it all came from"?


Absolutely! Hell, I don't even care if a candidate takes money from
foreigners, as long as there's full disclosure.

Dunno... not sure I'd want North Korea, or China, or worse - France trying
to influence our elections... at least any more than usual.

(BTW, did you notice that Kim Jong is cheering for VietKerry?)

"sanjian" wrote in message
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"sanjian" wrote in message
news:wNxWc.99388$Lj.5353@fed1read03...

Anyone think we should get rid of every last drop of this campaign
finance mumbo jumbo and just say "look, you can't have money from
foriegners, and you have to show where it all came from"?


Absolutely! Hell, I don't even care if a candidate takes money from
foreigners, as long as there's full disclosure.

Dunno... not sure I'd want North Korea, or China, or worse - France trying
to influence our elections... at least any more than usual.

(BTW, did you notice that Kim Jong is cheering for VietKerry?)



And Emporer (or is it king?) Moon is cheering for Bush.