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Does use of Skysight on an Oudie use up one of the three devices my Skysight sub entities me to use it on? (I want it on phone tablet and pc.)

What happens if you try to add more devices?

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 7:24:38 AM UTC-4, waremark wrote:
Does use of Skysight on an Oudie use up one of the three devices my Skysight sub entities me to use it on? (I want it on phone tablet and pc.)

You seem interested in this. So let me ask: what's the value here? I honestly don't understand why anyone wants hours old forecasts in the cockpit.

T8

On Monday, 17 June 2019 13:51:31 UTC+2, Tango Eight wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 7:24:38 AM UTC-4, waremark wrote:
Does use of Skysight on an Oudie use up one of the three devices my Skysight sub entities me to use it on? (I want it on phone tablet and pc.)

You seem interested in this. So let me ask: what's the value here? I honestly don't understand why anyone wants hours old forecasts in the cockpit.

Mathew I just started using skysight with LXNAV connect recently and so far find it helpful. They are few issues though, some of them I suspect or on the LXNAV side (the convergence data and the satellite data don’t seem to remain cached through the flight unless I reconnect with a cel signal mid flight, I suspect this is an LXNAV issue) but one thing I noticed in my last flight is a discrepancy between the parameter I choose to what was displayed. I choose the cloud base parameter which suppose to show where the clouds are predicted, but what I was seeing during the flight was either top of thermals or cloud base regardless of cu potential, in other words there was color everywhere vs what the web browser was showing.

Ramy

Yeah you'll need to contact LXNAV for device issues - I only have visibility up until the forecast data leaves our servers. They have been updating it with new functionality and fixes quite rapidly.

Will the Skysight map integration be available on LK8000 ?

Thanks

On Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:09:16 UTC+2, Mike N. wrote:
Will the Skysight map integration be available on LK8000 ?

Thanks

We are happy to work with anyone that wants to integrate SkySight. Please lobby the developers of the devices/software you'd like it integrated with to get in touch.

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 9:14:04 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Monday, 17 June 2019 13:51:31 UTC+2, Tango Eight wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 7:24:38 AM UTC-4, waremark wrote:
Does use of Skysight on an Oudie use up one of the three devices my Skysight sub entities me to use it on? (I want it on phone tablet and pc.)

You seem interested in this. So let me ask: what's the value here? I honestly don't understand why anyone wants hours old forecasts in the cockpit.

T8

Just to clarify - the forecast data is 'old', but it still cycles through hour-by-hour in the cockpit so you are looking at the prediction for the hour when/where you are. If you have an LX9000, you can benefit from any later updates though.

I'm biased because I wrote it, but;
For wave flying, the wave forecasts are so useful you'll wonder how you did it without it. Don't believe me - ask Dennis Tito or Morgan Sandercock, an OLC comment from on one of their 2000km flights, using SkySight in the cockpit:
“The SkySight forecast is so precise that we did not need to look at clouds to find lift. When the clouds went one way and SkySight went another way we found it was better to follow the SkySight prediction. We literally do not need to look out the window to find lift.
I have flown blue wave personally multiple times with SkySight and it really opened possibilities that were not there before. Predicting wave is quite easy because mountains don't move very fast and mid-to-upper level winds change slowly. The same applies to orographic convergences (i.e. wind splitting and joining behind an obstacle) or along the edge of plateaus/ridges. Overlay some wave flights on the forecast with the IGC Upload to see for yourself.
In highly dynamic or unstable wave conditions (fronts passing through etc) though your mileage may vary as to the placement of the wave hour by hour..

Our experience (VT, NH, ME in USA) with smaller scale terrain is that all of the forecast models do roughly as well as an experienced human looking at a single forecast SkewT as far as predicting the likelihood of useful wave (it's not hard).

All of the map based tools seem to be equally bad at forecasting the location (aside from the really obvious, known reliable places, e.g. Mt Washington), strength and vertical extent of wave.

One of my club mates has made something of a hobby of comparing SkySight wave forecasts to his experience of the day, and it's a very different experience than you relate above. His observation is the same as mine: in flight we have to look out the window, we have to go with our experience, we have to go with our knowledge of terrain. All of our forecasting tools taken together are reliable only for forecasting likelihood of wave, clouds, winds aloft. I don't recall we've ever had a day where one could follow forecast wave lift contours on a map and get a positive result.

We speculate that the current state of the art is predictive for the largest terrain (e.g. NZ, Sierras), but is not adequate for the smaller scale stuff we have.

Perhaps you'd like to plan an extended vacation & study trip in New England? We're all in for better in region forecasting :-).

best regards,
Evan Ludeman

The bigger the influence of terrain the easier it is to model.

Undoubtedly an competent user reading a SkewT can predict wave for a given location, but the maps allow you to do this over a large area, quickly and if in cockpit, hands free.

You are welcome to send feedback via the usual means, especially with traces, we may not always have time for a thorough investigation but we always read and note them.

After we upgrade the Western US model next week, the other US models will follow shortly after.

On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 11:22:53 AM UTC-4, wrote:
The bigger the influence of terrain the easier it is to model.

Undoubtedly an competent user reading a SkewT can predict wave for a given location, but the maps allow you to do this over a large area, quickly and if in cockpit, hands free.

You are welcome to send feedback via the usual means, especially with traces, we may not always have time for a thorough investigation but we always read and note them.

After we upgrade the Western US model next week, the other US models will follow shortly after.

I'll tag on T8's invite... MT. Washtington wave camp is 2nd week in October.. come compare the models real-time!
G7