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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
The list of countries with people that "sat on their hands whilst under the yoke of the most immoral regime in modern history" includes Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Yugoslavia, and Greece. Somebody get their fkucking history straight and get Greece off this dip **** list. G, from Greece. |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:HdGyj.58700$yE1.12710@attbi_s21: The list of countries with people that "sat on their hands whilst under the yoke of the most immoral regime in modern history" includes Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Yugoslavia, and Greece. Right, but none of those countries were loudly proclaiming themselves to be "world powers" and "leaders of the free world", as was the case with France prior to WWII. Their collapse in the Battle of France was so complete, quick, and unexpected that their national prestige will probably never recover. The truth is that France prissily regarded themselves as a major world power long after the shine was off her apple. The amazing thing is that they continue to display this attitude to this day. Ya gotta admire their chutzpah, I suppose -- but it's what makes them the butt of jokes here in America. Nope, what makes them the butt of jokes iare morons like you. Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
Well you've not shown yourself in a good light at all in this thread.
I think you should rethink you attitudes and preconceptions. I don't have attitudes and preconceptions -- but I do have a minor in history from the University of Wisconsin, and another 30 years of World War II studies under my belt. My father was a Captain in the US Army Air Corps during the war, and was stationed in France and Germany in 1945. To assume I'm not intimately familiar with France's wartime history and post-war behavior is presumptuous. Sorry if stating facts hurts your pride, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. The fact remains that the French were humiliated in 1940, many French acted dishonorably under the Nazi yoke, and they have yet to fully come to terms with their fate as a former world power. Don't despair, however. WRT France not gracefully accepting their lessened global position, they aren't alone. Every dominant world power eventually faces the same fate, and the U.S.'s turn is coming. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:fqGyj.5806$TT4.3619@attbi_s22: Well you've not shown yourself in a good light at all in this thread. I think you should rethink you attitudes and preconceptions. I don't have attitudes and preconceptions -- but I do have a minor in history from the University of Wisconsin, Oow! and another 30 years of World War II studies under my belt. My father was a Captain in the US Army Air Corps during the war, and was stationed in France and Germany in 1945. To assume I'm not intimately familiar with France's wartime history and post-war behavior is presumptuous. Sorry if stating facts hurts your pride, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. The fact remains that the French were humiliated in 1940, many French acted dishonorably under the Nazi yoke, and they have yet to fully come to terms with their fate as a former world power. Don't despair, however. WRT France not gracefully accepting their lessened global position, they aren't alone. Every dominant world power eventually faces the same fate, and the U.S.'s turn is coming. You're an idiot. Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
Somebody get their fkucking history straight and get Greece off this dip
**** list. G, from Greece. Indeed. The Greeks, while no match for the Germans, managed to thoroughly humiliate the Italians before falling under Axis occupation. For a brief (if not entirely impartial) history of Greece in WWII, see: http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/worldwarII.htm -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:_yGyj.5815$TT4.1156@attbi_s22: Somebody get their fkucking history straight and get Greece off this dip **** list. G, from Greece. Indeed. The Greeks, while no match for the Germans, managed to thoroughly humiliate the Italians before falling under Axis occupation. For a brief (if not entirely impartial) history of Greece in WWII, see: http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/worldwarII.htm Slurp Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
Jay Honeck wrote:
Well you've not shown yourself in a good light at all in this thread. I think you should rethink you attitudes and preconceptions. I don't have attitudes and preconceptions -- but I do have a minor in history from the University of Wisconsin, and another 30 years of World War II studies under my belt. My father was a Captain in the US Army Air Corps during the war, and was stationed in France and Germany in 1945. To assume I'm not intimately familiar with France's wartime history and post-war behavior is presumptuous. Sorry if stating facts hurts your pride, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. The fact remains that the French were humiliated in 1940, many French acted dishonorably under the Nazi yoke, and they have yet to fully come to terms with their fate as a former world power. Don't despair, however. WRT France not gracefully accepting their lessened global position, they aren't alone. Every dominant world power eventually faces the same fate, and the U.S.'s turn is coming. Maybe sooner than we think as we are now outsourcing our military to France! :-) Matt |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
On Mar 2, 5:53 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
The list of countries with people that "sat on their hands whilst under the yoke of the most immoral regime in modern history" includes Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Yugoslavia, and Greece. Right, but none of those countries were loudly proclaiming themselves to be "world powers" and "leaders of the free world", as was the case with France prior to WWII. Their collapse in the Battle of France was so complete, quick, and unexpected that their national prestige will probably never recover. The truth is that France prissily regarded themselves as a major world power long after the shine was off her apple. The amazing thing is that they continue to display this attitude to this day. Ya gotta admire their chutzpah, I suppose -- but it's what makes them the butt of jokes here in America. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War. Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place in world history. My master's in History and I will be waiting. Dan |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
Matt Whiting wrote in
: Jay Honeck wrote: Well you've not shown yourself in a good light at all in this thread. I think you should rethink you attitudes and preconceptions. I don't have attitudes and preconceptions -- but I do have a minor in history from the University of Wisconsin, and another 30 years of World War II studies under my belt. My father was a Captain in the US Army Air Corps during the war, and was stationed in France and Germany in 1945. To assume I'm not intimately familiar with France's wartime history and post-war behavior is presumptuous. Sorry if stating facts hurts your pride, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em. The fact remains that the French were humiliated in 1940, many French acted dishonorably under the Nazi yoke, and they have yet to fully come to terms with their fate as a former world power. Don't despair, however. WRT France not gracefully accepting their lessened global position, they aren't alone. Every dominant world power eventually faces the same fate, and the U.S.'s turn is coming. Maybe sooner than we think as we are now outsourcing our military to France! :-) And why not? If, as is often claimed, they are in fact making the things at a loss and at the expense of the government, you can bankrupt them in revenge by buying loads of 'busses. Bertie |
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Way off topic, but it has do to with the French
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: On Mar 2, 5:53 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote: The list of countries with people that "sat on their hands whilst under the yoke of the most immoral regime in modern history" includes Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Yugoslavia, and Greece. Right, but none of those countries were loudly proclaiming themselves to be "world powers" and "leaders of the free world", as was the case with France prior to WWII. Their collapse in the Battle of France was so complete, quick, and unexpected that their national prestige will probably never recover. The truth is that France prissily regarded themselves as a major world power long after the shine was off her apple. The amazing thing is that they continue to display this attitude to this day. Ya gotta admire their chutzpah, I suppose -- but it's what makes them the butt of jokes here in America. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Perhaps your minor in history didn't cover The Great War, the Napoleonic Wars, or the Seven Year's War. Look those up and then come back and discuss France's place in world history. My master's in History and I will be waiting. That's a bit unfair, isn't it? Anyone who has read a pamphlet on world history knows more than Jay... Bertie |
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