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Old January 13th 05, 06:40 PM
Matt Barrow
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Okay, this one is only sorta oil related. Should I look into a

preheater?
The airplane will be housed in a non-heated hangar.


I would go with something like a 100 watt light bulb tucked under the

cowl. I
don't think you need something as elaborate as a Tannis.


In Virginia during the winter? What does the temp drop to out there? Only a
light bulb? Even with a thermal cover that sounds like lighting a room with
a candle.


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Old January 13th 05, 09:22 PM
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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In Virginia during the winter? What does the temp drop to out there? Only
a
light bulb? Even with a thermal cover that sounds like lighting a room
with
a candle.


Bad analogy. Candles and similar concoctions have worked just fine to light
up rooms for thousands of years, and continue to work just fine for quite a
few people on the planet.

Ever put your hand on a hot light bulb? Given a nice cover, I would think
the bulb would do a great job of keeping the engine cozy during those long
winter nights....



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Old January 13th 05, 09:48 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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In Virginia during the winter? What does the temp drop to out there?

Only
a
light bulb? Even with a thermal cover that sounds like lighting a room
with
a candle.


Bad analogy. Candles and similar concoctions have worked just fine to

light
up rooms for thousands of years, and continue to work just fine for quite

a
few people on the planet.


Gee...then why did Edison bother to invent the light bulb, and why in hell
did we develop central heating?

Ever put your hand on a hot light bulb? Given a nice cover, I would think
the bulb would do a great job of keeping the engine cozy during those long
winter nights....


Have you even put your hand on a hot engine housing?


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Old January 14th 05, 12:49 AM
Juan Jimenez
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Gee...then why did Edison bother to invent the light bulb


He hated his sister Sylvania, who made a fortune in the candle business.

and why in hell did we develop central heating?


Probably for reasons that have nothing to do with aviation oil and cold
days.

Ever put your hand on a hot light bulb? Given a nice cover, I would think
the bulb would do a great job of keeping the engine cozy during those
long
winter nights....


Have you even put your hand on a hot engine housing?


Matt, think about what you are saying, please. Oil doesn't have to be at
_engine operating_ temperature to ensure that when the engine starts, it
starts to do its job quicker than if it where thickened by low temperature.
No commercial engine heater brings oil to anywhere near normal flight
operating temps. They just warm it up to something approaching room
temperature so it will flow easier when the engine starts. The only reason
you buy a commercial engine/sump heater is because you want the process to
go faster, but you can accomplish the same goal by imparting the same energy
to the engine compartment, just a little bit at a time, overnight, with a
cozy blanket over it to keep all those happy, excited, bouncing molecules in
one place.

...and to answer your question, yes, hundreds of times in the last 30 years
or so since I started flying. Goes with the territory.

Juan



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Old January 14th 05, 01:18 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Gee...then why did Edison bother to invent the light bulb


He hated his sister Sylvania, who made a fortune in the candle business.

and why in hell did we develop central heating?


Probably for reasons that have nothing to do with aviation oil and cold
days.


For very similar reasons.

[rest of babble snipped]

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Old January 14th 05, 04:42 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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In Virginia during the winter? What does the temp drop to out there?

Only
a
light bulb? Even with a thermal cover that sounds like lighting a room
with
a candle.


Bad analogy. Candles and similar concoctions have worked just fine to

light
up rooms for thousands of years, and continue to work just fine for

quite
a
few people on the planet.


Gee...then why did Edison bother to invent the light bulb, and why in hell
did we develop central heating?

Ever put your hand on a hot light bulb? Given a nice cover, I would

think
the bulb would do a great job of keeping the engine cozy during those

long
winter nights....


Have you even put your hand on a hot engine housing?


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO



Actually Mattt a 100W bulb will keep a well covered engine toasty warm down
into the teens. Edison's invention is better at generating heat than light.
That's why so many alternatives to the incandescent bulb have been invented.


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Old January 14th 05, 02:37 PM
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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For very similar reasons.

[rest of babble snipped]


Ooo! Another candidate for the twit bucket! Off you go! rofl!

plonk!



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Old January 14th 05, 11:07 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Actually Mattt a 100W bulb will keep a well covered engine toasty warm

down
into the teens. Edison's invention is better at generating heat than

light.
That's why so many alternatives to the incandescent bulb have been

invented.

Really? Just what do you consider "toasty warm" and what do you consider
"well covered"?

Got some test data?


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Old January 14th 05, 11:33 PM
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Got some test data?


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Matthew W. Barrow
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Montrose, CO


Yes, I do.

A 100 watt light bulb keeps the IO-520D in my Cessna 185 at 20 deg F over
ambient. That's with a couple of sleeping bags tossed over the cowling.

Karl
"Curator" N185KG


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Old January 16th 05, 07:20 PM
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Believe it or not, some Sam's Club stores have aviation oil. The one I used
to go to in North Richland Hills, TX had it by the case.


Find the SKU's or similar that they use; that will help others
get same...

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