Pattern Entry Procedures - FAA Guidance

"Cub Driver" wrote in message ...

To me, "approaching to land" means a plane on final. Otherwise you're
approaching to get into the pattern, not to land.

I don't tend to make any turns on final (of course there are always those who
call the "left final" position report after turning from "left base" but I've never
understood what they were doing.

Recently, Ron Natalie posted:

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

To me, "approaching to land" means a plane on final. Otherwise you're
approaching to get into the pattern, not to land.

I don't tend to make any turns on final (of course there are always
those who
call the "left final" position report after turning from "left base"
but I've never
understood what they were doing.

Perhaps letting the jerk on "right final" know that they're in violation
of the traffic pattern?

Been there, seen that.

Neil

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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| "Cub Driver" wrote in message
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| To me, "approaching to land" means a plane on final. Otherwise you're
| approaching to get into the pattern, not to land.
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| I don't tend to make any turns on final (of course there are always those
who
| call the "left final" position report after turning from "left base" but
I've never
| understood what they were doing.


Now, suppose you are flying the ILS, doing the usual S-turns about the
localizer. You are approaching to land. Do you make all your turns to the
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Perhaps letting the jerk on "right final" know that they're in violation
of the traffic pattern?

I suspect that the "left final" people come from right-traffic
airports and are mostly trying to convince themselves that what they
are doing is correct.

And yes, afraid that someone else might be on the familiar right
final.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Cub Driver wrote:


To me, "approaching to land" means a plane on final. Otherwise you're
approaching to get into the pattern, not to land.

If it only applies to planes on final, then FAR 91.126 says
that you can only make left hand turns on final. Of course,
if you're making a turn on final, I suppose you're not
really on final yet .....
Todd Pattist
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