OLC comment, MOP logging deactivated

wrote on 5/22/2020 12:19 PM:
OLC is now requiring you buy a MOP sensor for electric gliders where previously an ENL sensor was allowed - this is despite, as I understand it, ENL sensors picking up the FES just fine, and being allowed in world competitions.

On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 3:26:44 AM UTC+2, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion 6.83 and it installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC system decla Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include " ENL ".

Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to

Many Thanks in advance and fly safely

André Pepin Lak 17b fes 21m " DB "

Does "just fine" include an FES that is flying level at the minimum sink rate? or,
say, at best L/D with sufficient power to double the best L/D?

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 9:26:44 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion 6.83 and it installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC system decla Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include " ENL ".

Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to

Many Thanks in advance and fly safely

André Pepin Lak 17b fes 21m " DB "

I posted a July 9 flight to OLC. My glider is a Ventus 3F. The flight log was recorded on a LXNav S10 with MOP2 sensor, which is working. The MOP is referenced on the I record and shows on all the B records. MOP numbers correspond to ENL numbers when viewed on SeeYOu. Despite all that, I got the Autocomment: Aircraft a FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated. Sent email to OLC, but of course, no response... Anybody have an idea what is going on here? Tim Welles

On 7/10/20 10:22 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 9:26:44 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion 6.83 and it installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC system decla Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include " ENL ".

Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to

Many Thanks in advance and fly safely

André Pepin Lak 17b fes 21m " DB "

I posted a July 9 flight to OLC. My glider is a Ventus 3F. The flight log was recorded on a LXNav S10 with MOP2 sensor, which is working. The MOP is referenced on the I record and shows on all the B records. MOP numbers correspond to ENL numbers when viewed on SeeYOu. Despite all that, I got the Autocomment: Aircraft a FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated. Sent email to OLC, but of course, no response... Anybody have an idea what is going on here? Tim Welles


Interesting that the map hasn't been rendered yet, like something
crashed before completion. Have you tried deleting the submission and
resubmitting?

kinsell wrote on 7/10/2020 9:58 AM:
On 7/10/20 10:22 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 9:26:44 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion 6.83 and it
installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC system
decla* Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include " ENL ".

Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to

Many Thanks in advance and fly safely

André Pepin Lak 17b fes 21m* " DB "

I posted a July 9 flight to OLC. My glider is a Ventus 3F.* The flight log was
recorded on a LXNav S10 with MOP2 sensor, which is working.* The MOP is
referenced on the I record and shows on all the B records.* MOP numbers
correspond to ENL numbers when viewed on SeeYOu.* Despite all that, I got the
Autocomment: Aircraft a FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.* Sent email to
OLC, but of course, no response...* Anybody have an idea what is going on here?
Tim Welles


Interesting that the map hasn't been rendered yet, like something crashed before
completion.* Have you tried deleting the submission and resubmitting?
Jeff Banks Silent Electro (no MOP) also does not get a map on his postings. I'm
guessing that is intentional for people that don't have an MOP.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
kinsell wrote on 7/10/2020 9:58 AM:
On 7/10/20 10:22 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 9:26:44 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion 6..83 and it
installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC system
declaÂ* Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include " ENL ".

Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to

Many Thanks in advance and fly safely

André Pepin Lak 17b fes 21mÂ* " DB "

I posted a July 9 flight to OLC. My glider is a Ventus 3F.Â* The flight log was
recorded on a LXNav S10 with MOP2 sensor, which is working.Â* The MOP is
referenced on the I record and shows on all the B records.Â* MOP numbers
correspond to ENL numbers when viewed on SeeYOu.Â* Despite all that, I got the
Autocomment: Aircraft a FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.Â* Sent email to
OLC, but of course, no response...Â* Anybody have an idea what is going on here?
Tim Welles


Interesting that the map hasn't been rendered yet, like something crashed before
completion.Â* Have you tried deleting the submission and resubmitting?
Jeff Banks Silent Electro (no MOP) also does not get a map on his postings. I'm
guessing that is intentional for people that don't have an MOP.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

Maybe so, but I do have a the MOP2. Tim

wrote on 7/10/2020 10:58 AM:
On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 1:20:56 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
kinsell wrote on 7/10/2020 9:58 AM:
On 7/10/20 10:22 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 9:26:44 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion 6..83 and it
installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC system
decla* Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include " ENL ".

Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to

Many Thanks in advance and fly safely

André Pepin Lak 17b fes 21m* " DB "

I posted a July 9 flight to OLC. My glider is a Ventus 3F.* The flight log was
recorded on a LXNav S10 with MOP2 sensor, which is working.* The MOP is
referenced on the I record and shows on all the B records.* MOP numbers
correspond to ENL numbers when viewed on SeeYOu.* Despite all that, I got the
Autocomment: Aircraft a FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.* Sent email to
OLC, but of course, no response...* Anybody have an idea what is going on here?
Tim Welles


Interesting that the map hasn't been rendered yet, like something crashed before
completion.* Have you tried deleting the submission and resubmitting?
Jeff Banks Silent Electro (no MOP) also does not get a map on his postings. I'm
guessing that is intentional for people that don't have an MOP.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

Maybe so, but I do have a the MOP2. Tim

I meant to say "where the OLC does not recognize an MOP"

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1

On Friday, July 10, 2020 at 12:58:32 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
On 7/10/20 10:22 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 9:26:44 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion 6.83 and it installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC system decla Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include " ENL ".

Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to

Many Thanks in advance and fly safely

André Pepin Lak 17b fes 21m " DB "

I posted a July 9 flight to OLC. My glider is a Ventus 3F. The flight log was recorded on a LXNav S10 with MOP2 sensor, which is working. The MOP is referenced on the I record and shows on all the B records. MOP numbers correspond to ENL numbers when viewed on SeeYOu. Despite all that, I got the Autocomment: Aircraft a FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated. Sent email to OLC, but of course, no response... Anybody have an idea what is going on here? Tim Welles


Interesting that the map hasn't been rendered yet, like something
crashed before completion. Have you tried deleting the submission and
resubmitting?

Yes, I did delete and resubmit the flight. Same result.

On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 7:26:44 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion 6.83 and it installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC system decla Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging deactivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include " ENL ".

Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to

Many Thanks in advance and fly safely

André Pepin Lak 17b fes 21m " DB "

Tim, OLC saw your "legs"....enough said. :). #711.

At 18:03 10 July 2020, Tom Kelley #711 wrote:
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 7:26:44 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion
6.83
=
and it installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC
sys=
tem decla Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging
dea=
ctivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include
"
=
ENL ".
=20
Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to
=20
Many Thanks in advance and fly safely
=20
Andr=C3=A9 Pepin Lak 17b fes 21m " DB "

Tim, OLC saw your "legs"....enough said. :). #711.

It has to be realised that MOP is completely separate from ENL.
MOP2 uses a current transformer to record any energy transfer to the motor

as MOP.

Any environmental noise will be recorded separately as ENL.. They are not
alternatives.

As far as I am aware, MOP is only available from LX.

Tim.

Op vrijdag 10 juli 2020 21:45:04 UTC+2 schreef Tim Newport-Peace:
At 18:03 10 July 2020, Tom Kelley #711 wrote:
On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 7:26:44 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Good day all, before the season start I downloaded the Flarm verion
6.83
=
and it installed ok.
We just started flying and my declaration is in light grey as the OLC
sys=
tem decla Autocomment: Used Aircraft is FES glider, but MOP logging
dea=
ctivated.
I looked in my flarm info and the licences present in my flarm include
"
=
ENL ".
=20
Any bodie know what this OLC comment refer to
=20
Many Thanks in advance and fly safely
=20
Andr=C3=A9 Pepin Lak 17b fes 21m " DB "

Tim, OLC saw your "legs"....enough said. :). #711.

It has to be realised that MOP is completely separate from ENL.
MOP2 uses a current transformer to record any energy transfer to the motor

as MOP.

Any environmental noise will be recorded separately as ENL.. They are not
alternatives.

As far as I am aware, MOP is only available from LX.

Tim.

It seems that OLC is sponsored by LX.