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Old September 25th 05, 01:25 AM
Mike Rapoport
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The US mountains where 1500AGL is over 18K' are all in AK. There is also no
class A over the Aleution Islands.

Mike
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"Blanche" wrote in message
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Blanche" wrote in message

Uh....if you're between 18K and 60K in the US, then you are required
to be on an IFR flight plan, hence only at even number altitudes.
33,500 is inappropriate.


That's not correct. You're required to be on an IFR flight plan in Class
A
airspace, but not all airspace between 18K and 60K in the US is Class A.

By the way, 33,500 IS an even number.


My bad. I meant all thousands, not the half thousands that we're
used to in VFR.

Second my bad...what airspace in the US 18K and 60K is not
Class A? Not counting the big mountain in Washington state. (sorry,
can't remember the name)





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Old September 24th 05, 04:43 PM
Mark Hansen
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On 9/23/2005 4:13 PM, Blanche wrote:

Uh....if you're between 18K and 60K in the US, then you are required
to be on an IFR flight plan, hence only at even number altitudes.
33,500 is inappropriate.


Actually, while in controlled airspace you are required to fly at
the altitude assigned by ATC. The odd/even altitudes/levels is only
when outside of controlled airspace.


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Old September 24th 05, 04:41 AM
Scott Draper
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Why can't you say FL 335? After all 33,000ft is FL 330.

You're absolutely right. Dumb question. I should have written it
before asking.

Thank you.

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Old September 23rd 05, 07:24 PM
rps
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I didn't know you could be at a 500ft level in Class A airspace (which
I've never flown in, except in a commercial carrier).

According to FAR =A7 91.135 : Operations in Class A airspace.
Except as provided in paragraph (d) of this section, each person
operating an aircraft in Class A airspace must conduct that operation
under instrument flight rules (IFR) and in compliance with the
following:

(a) Clearance. Operations may be conducted only under an ATC clearance
received prior to entering the airspace.

I've never received an en route clearance to an altitude other than in
the thousands, (except, of course during departure or approach).

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Old September 23rd 05, 08:13 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"rps" wrote in message
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I didn't know you could be at a 500ft level in Class A airspace (which
I've never flown in, except in a commercial carrier).


Think about block altitudes, and remember that not all airspace above 18,000
is Class A.


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Old September 24th 05, 12:06 AM
Newps
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rps wrote:

I didn't know you could be at a 500ft level in Class A airspace (which
I've never flown in, except in a commercial carrier).


He didn't say he was level, only that he was reporting on the freq
leaving an altitude. We get this all the time here, an RJ 30 miles out
still in the low to mid 20's descending.
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Old September 23rd 05, 07:29 PM
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 17:18:09 GMT, Scott Draper
wrote:

Is there a proper phraseology for reporting leaving 33,500? The AIM
doesn't say; it always assumes you're at a whole number flight level.


Your leaving Angels 33 point 5? Or Flight level 335..?

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Old September 24th 05, 04:44 AM
Scott Draper
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Your leaving Angels 33 point 5? Or Flight level 335..?

The 33 point 5 is what spawned the question. A new airline pilot
asked me what was proper instead of the 33.5 that most people seem to
use.

I didn't carry my decimals properly and missed the friggin obvious
answer.

Flight Level 335 is proper. Obviously, I don't fly those altitudes.
:-)

Thanks

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Old September 23rd 05, 07:46 PM
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"Scott Draper" wrote in message
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Is there a proper phraseology for reporting leaving 33,500? The AIM
doesn't say; it always assumes you're at a whole number flight level.


33,500 is a whole number. Try "leaving flight level three three five".


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Old September 24th 05, 04:40 AM
Scott Draper
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33,500 is a whole number. Try "leaving flight level three three
five".

Sorry, it was a stupid question. But a newbie airline pilot asked me
and I made the assumption that the answer wasn't obvious. I guess my
intuitive reaction is to think of FL's are in thousands, when they're
really in 100's. Duh.

Thanks


 




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