Radio Procedure - Runway ID

"Newps" wrote in message
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Ross Richardson wrote:
I use an airport that has RWY 7 and I call zero-seven all the time. What
does it matter?

It doesn't. It's like saying "any traffic in the area please advise."
Serves no purpose but doesn't hurt anything.

Just don't have dyslexia and say runway seven-zero.

"Ross Richardson" wrote in message
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I use an airport that has RWY 7 and I call zero-seven all the time. What
does it matter?


It's not that it's harmful, it's just that it serves no useful purpose.
Much like calling yourself "Skyhawk november niner eight zero one victor"
instead of "Skyhawk niner eight zero one victor".

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Much like calling yourself "Skyhawk november niner eight zero one victor"
instead of "Skyhawk niner eight zero one victor".

That's nonsense. You must say the november. What country do you live
in? Oh, you must have forgotten that there are other countries than the
US. Don't assume everyone here lives in the US. Plenty of non-US
pilots here too.

Gerald

"Gerald Sylvester" wrote in message
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That's nonsense. You must say the november.


Why?



What country do you live in?

The United States of America.



Oh, you must have forgotten that there are other countries than the US.


Nope.



Don't assume everyone here lives in the US.


I never have,



Plenty of non-US pilots here too.


Yup.

Howdy!

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Gerald Sylvester wrote:
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Much like calling yourself "Skyhawk november niner eight zero one victor"
instead of "Skyhawk niner eight zero one victor".

That's nonsense. You must say the november. What country do you live
in? Oh, you must have forgotten that there are other countries than the
US. Don't assume everyone here lives in the US. Plenty of non-US
pilots here too.

Mr. McNicoll could have cited the AIM, 4-2-4.a.3 where it says:

Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft type, model or
manufacturer's name, followed by the digits/letters of the
registration number. When the aircraft manufacturer's name or model
is stated, the prefix "N" is dropped; e.g., Aztec Two Four Six Four
Alpha.

Naturally, that only applies specifically to operations where the AIM
has any force, moral or legal. Your mileage will likely vary.

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"Michael Houghton" wrote in message
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Mr. McNicoll could have cited the AIM, 4-2-4.a.3 where it says:

Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft type, model or
manufacturer's name, followed by the digits/letters of the
registration number. When the aircraft manufacturer's name or model
is stated, the prefix "N" is dropped; e.g., Aztec Two Four Six Four
Alpha.

Naturally, that only applies specifically to operations where the AIM
has any force, moral or legal. Your mileage will likely vary.


The AIM hasn't any force, legal or otherwise.

"Casey Wilson" N2310D @ gmail.com wrote in message
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Not particularly germane to this discussion, but KIYK is a non-tower
airport. I was up doing bumps and rounds, AKA touch-n-goes yesterday, and
was dutifully calling out my various positions as any good airman in the
pattern should do.

Now, I was calling the runway as 02, like in "....33Xray, turning left
base, runway Zero-Two, Inyokern." Over the radio comes a voice to admonish
me that, "...there is no zero in front of the two." Never wanting to
rankle a fellow pilot, I dropped the zero -- well, most of the time,
anyway. Thirty-year-old habits are hard to break.

Does it matter? Is there a protocol for this?

He's right, there is no leading zero, but most pilots probably feel it's not
worth correcting when they hear it.

? Does it matter? Is there a protocol for this?

He's right, there is no leading zero, but most pilots probably feel it's not
worth correcting when they hear it.

Interesting. Both Mary and I were trained to ALWAYS use the leading
zero. Runway 7 is ALWAYS called runway 07.

For a runway like "3" it might make sense to use the leading zero,
simply to avoid confusion with runway "30" -- but for higher numbers I
guess it's dumb, now that I think about it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Ah...but this is just another example of an instructor pushing his/her own
ideas as gospel. "My instructor told me to..." is not justification for
anything. Heard it too many times on checkrides.

Bob Gardner

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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? Does it matter? Is there a protocol for this?

He's right, there is no leading zero, but most pilots probably feel it's
not
worth correcting when they hear it.

Interesting. Both Mary and I were trained to ALWAYS use the leading
zero. Runway 7 is ALWAYS called runway 07.

For a runway like "3" it might make sense to use the leading zero,
simply to avoid confusion with runway "30" -- but for higher numbers I
guess it's dumb, now that I think about it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"My instructor told me to..." is not justification for
anything.

Well, in all fairness, what =should= we trust instructors for?

Jose
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