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Old December 20th 03, 03:39 AM
Allan9
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Bill
I certainly hope you are talking theoretcally. In 38 years of ATC I never
heard of anything like that. In most instances the only entry would be in
the Daily Record of Operations. This normally does not leave the facility.
Take a look at this reference. http://www1.faa.gov/atpubs/ATQ/APNDX%207.htm

You mentioned short on fuel. Was the required fuel on board, proper flight
planning, etc..
Al



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Has any pilot ever been prosecuted (by the FAA, NTSB, ...) for declaring

an
emergency when, in some experts opinion, one did not exist? [Reference:
decending through icing layer while short on fuel]




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Old December 20th 03, 04:59 AM
Gerald Sylvester
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during one of my phase checks for my PPL, the instructor brought up a
situation in I think florida where a pilot declared a fuel
priority/emergency twice in 2 weeks and the guy in ATC recognized
it the 2nd time. He was ****ed for whatever reason and pursued
it. All I remember is the guy filled out a NASA form for the
first time and the 2nd time was broken fuel guage (?, something like
that) and was let off. I guess anything is possible. As long as you
are not stupid, get yourself in an even more stupid situation and
proceed like a moron, you probably won't get in trouble. Just like
the boy who cried wolf. If you or others cry all the time, then
ATC won't care when it really matters.


gerald




Allan9 wrote:
Bill
I certainly hope you are talking theoretcally. In 38 years of ATC I never
heard of anything like that. In most instances the only entry would be in
the Daily Record of Operations. This normally does not leave the facility.
Take a look at this reference. http://www1.faa.gov/atpubs/ATQ/APNDX%207.htm

You mentioned short on fuel. Was the required fuel on board, proper flight
planning, etc..
Al



"William W. Plummer" wrote in message
news:ZmsEb.146587$_M.719680@attbi_s54...

Has any pilot ever been prosecuted (by the FAA, NTSB, ...) for declaring


an

emergency when, in some experts opinion, one did not exist? [Reference:
decending through icing layer while short on fuel]






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Old December 21st 03, 10:13 PM
GregR
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"William W. Plummer" wrote:

Has any pilot ever been prosecuted (by the FAA, NTSB, ...) for declaring an
emergency when, in some experts opinion, one did not exist? [Reference:
decending through icing layer while short on fuel]


Haven't had to declare an emergency yet, but have requested priority landing
clearance a couple of times.

First was while doing instrument training at KJAX in the late-70's. This was
during the days of the switchover from 80 octane to 100LL, and this particular
plane apparently got a bad case of lead indigestion (you've never seen an IFR
hood come off so quickly...). They bumped us to #1 for landing, and we landed
uneventfully (heh, they even rolled "the equipment" for us).

Second incident was back in the early '90's at KVNY - engine went severe rough
just after takeoff. Let the tower know about the problem, struggled up to
pattern altitude at reduced RPM, and managed to land normally on this one as
well.

Neither incident triggered any kind of follow-up or contact from the
powers-that-be, though my instincts would be to declare an emergency if in
doubt, and do whatever it takes to get the airplane safely back on terra
firma. The paperwork can be dealt with later.

BTW, the VNY incident turned out to be severe plug fouling as well - FBO
manager shrugged and said "it happens", needless to say that was my last flight
with them. :-)

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GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o

CA/IFR/BGI - KVNY

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