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![]() "Denny" wrote in message ps.com... Once I had fulfilled my daily quota, I was told to go hide for the last couple hours of my shift. ************************************************** **************************** Yeah, part of what killed GM, etc... AC Delco parts factory in Flint was famous for that... You could say that about every unionized industry in the past 100 years. The teacher's unions are the newest idiots-at-work. A shirt tail relative worked there for 30 years - she was TOLD by union reps what days she was not to show up, they would punch her in and out... OTOH, the final assembly lines were/are demanding... You have to be there, every minute is monitored, have to have relief to go to the can, etc... When you have to make up for all the lost/stolen (and it's A LOT) time... Anyway, from what I see the package delivery folks are rode hard and put away wet... And yet they stay on, year after year. We have family friends where the husband just completed his 30th year with UPS...still a delivery driver. |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... This is cool! http://makeashorterlink.com/?N4DC52E0D This really makes you appreciate the kind of crap weather that most of us have the luxury of avoiding. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Watching the holds after the cell is over airport is hilarious. -------------------------------------------------- DW |
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![]() "Matt Barrow" wrote You could say that about every unionized industry in the past 100 years. The teacher's unions are the newest idiots-at-work. I feel sorry for you, and the educational institution that has made you feel this way about teachers. Where I live, and teach, the vast majority of teachers are hard working, dedicated professionals. They teach for the love of it, because the crap pay and respect tossed our way is not enough reason to stay in it. -- Jim in NC |
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![]() "Morgans" wrote in message ... "Matt Barrow" wrote You could say that about every unionized industry in the past 100 years. The teacher's unions are the newest idiots-at-work. I feel sorry for you, and the educational institution that has made you feel this way about teachers. If the shoe fits... But, hey...I've been following the goings on at Chapel Hill down there. Where I live, and teach, the vast majority of teachers are hard working, dedicated professionals. They teach for the love of it, because the crap pay and respect tossed our way is not enough reason to stay in it. First: nationally, teachers are coming from the bottom quartile of their class. Second, only a small fraction are teaching classes in areas for which they have their degrees. As for the unions, check this and follow the trackbacks: http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/...ves/004943.php And this: http://www.mackinac.org/article.aspx?ID=7185 I'm sorry for you they did exactly what they intended, which is to make so many people naive. (See" Thomas Mann and the beginnings of public education in the US) |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:
This is cool! http://makeashorterlink.com/?N4DC52E0D This really makes you appreciate the kind of crap weather that most of us have the luxury of avoiding. Bummer. Sent this to someone, but link no longer works. Did you by any chance save a copy in your video archives? I probably have a copy in cache here, but don't know how to get at it. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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![]() "alexy" wrote in message ... "Jay Honeck" wrote: This is cool! http://makeashorterlink.com/?N4DC52E0D This really makes you appreciate the kind of crap weather that most of us have the luxury of avoiding. Bummer. Sent this to someone, but link no longer works. Did you by any chance save a copy in your video archives? I probably have a copy in cache here, but don't know how to get at it. If he didn't, I saved the file; email me at: matt underscore barrow at qwest dot net and I'll send it to you. |
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"Matt Barrow" wrote:
"alexy" wrote in message .. . "Jay Honeck" wrote: This is cool! http://makeashorterlink.com/?N4DC52E0D This really makes you appreciate the kind of crap weather that most of us have the luxury of avoiding. Bummer. Sent this to someone, but link no longer works. Did you by any chance save a copy in your video archives? I probably have a copy in cache here, but don't know how to get at it. If he didn't, I saved the file; email me at: matt underscore barrow at qwest dot net and I'll send it to you. Thanks. Turned out that they had turned off download privileges for guests, because of high download activity. I registered and downloaded it. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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![]() "alexy" wrote in message ... "Jay Honeck" wrote: This is cool! http://makeashorterlink.com/?N4DC52E0D This really makes you appreciate the kind of crap weather that most of us have the luxury of avoiding. Bummer. Sent this to someone, but link no longer works. Did you by any chance save a copy in your video archives? I probably have a copy in cache here, but don't know how to get at it. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. Here's the URL http://www.pilotsofamerica.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4407&d=1146624884 not made shorter. I just checked it and it was still working. |
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I don't know where you were, but I had a chance to be in a GM plant over a
period of years. What I saw was hardly a sweat shop. It was like my concept of an assembly line, but in slow motion. On the engine line, you could work ahead several jobs (taking all of about 2 minutes), and then sit down and read the paper (for about 10 minutes) until those jobs passed you. I never saw ANYTHING that looked even remotely rushed or even pressing. All of this for money and benefits in the area of $100,000 per year, with no educational investment. Of course, this plant is gone now. Those employees are collecting the same money and benefits for sitting in a "job bank" and doing cross word puzzles. Is it any wonder? "Denny" wrote in message ps.com... Once I had fulfilled my daily quota, I was told to go hide for the last couple hours of my shift. ************************************************** **************************** Yeah, part of what killed GM, etc... AC Delco parts factory in Flint was famous for that... A shirt tail relative worked there for 30 years - she was TOLD by union reps what days she was not to show up, they would punch her in and out... OTOH, the final assembly lines were/are demanding... You have to be there, every minute is monitored, have to have relief to go to the can, etc... Anyway, from what I see the package delivery folks are rode hard and put away wet... denny denny |
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You've hit upon the great paradox. The unions protect the wildly
incompetent and undermine the respect we have for the profession. In NYC, they have only fired one teacher in the last few years. It is so time consuming and expensive to fire a teacher, they simly reassign the incompetent to places where they don't have to teach. Were it not for the unions, teachers would be more highly regarded because they would be more highly qualified. There is little or no issue of qualification in private schools, and the teachers command more respect from students and parents. Of course, in order to go to a private school, one has to pay even more than the $10,000 per year per student they extract from us in taxes for each government school pupil. "Morgans" wrote in message ... "Matt Barrow" wrote You could say that about every unionized industry in the past 100 years. The teacher's unions are the newest idiots-at-work. I feel sorry for you, and the educational institution that has made you feel this way about teachers. Where I live, and teach, the vast majority of teachers are hard working, dedicated professionals. They teach for the love of it, because the crap pay and respect tossed our way is not enough reason to stay in it. -- Jim in NC |
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