Verdant green...

Montblack wrote:
Define tent.


The...um...thingy just like the Honeck's used to own before theirs blew
away three years ago.

Better yet:
http://www.google.com/search?q=defin...en-US:official


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T

"To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become
a private pilot you must strive to master four of them"
- Rod Machado

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("Jack Allison" wrote)
Define tent.

The...um...thingy just like the Honeck's used to own before theirs blew
away three years ago.


Not brown. Sure, I see.

We'll flip it over and use the green side.


Montblack
This is too fun... :-)

Our green is coming at a huge financial cost. We haven't had any rain
appreciable rain since May 28th. I just got an electric bill for irrigating
one 330 acre field, it was over $5200. For one month. But I'm just happy
that we could do it. I can't imagine having the kind of summer that they
are having out west.


Saw the phone bill for the tower the other day. $35K per month. Ouch.
That includes all the lines that a tower uses such as the hot lines
between us and Salt Lake, etc.

Saw the phone bill for the tower the other day. $35K per month. Ouch.
That includes all the lines that a tower uses such as the hot lines
between us and Salt Lake, etc.

Holy crap! Sounds like you guys need to check out internet phone
service...

I hear it's cheap!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Saw the phone bill for the tower the other day. $35K per month. Ouch.
That includes all the lines that a tower uses such as the hot lines
between us and Salt Lake, etc.

Holy crap! Sounds like you guys need to check out internet phone
service...

I hear it's cheap!

when the internet phone service can provide quality of service, availability,
and "security" of dedicated lines, then maybe they should... until then let's
use what works.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Holy crap! Sounds like you guys need to check out internet phone
service...

I hear it's cheap!


Vonage has $49.95 Small Business "unlimited" plan. Dedicated fax line, local
extensions (Salt Lake City area codes available) lots of features.

....only it doesn't show Montana as an option, yet.

Our friends have Vonage and have an extra Mexico City phone #. When his
wife's friends and family call, from Mexico city, it's a local call for
them, but rings in Minnesota at our friend's house.

So... maybe Salt Lake City could sign up with Vonage, then you would call
their local Billings, MT Vonage number. Much of your SLC phone traffic would
then be only a local call for you - if it works out that way through Vonage.
Not all, but a chunk of calls could go through Vonage.

$35K x 12 months = over $420,000. Wow!

Ham radio an option? "Calling Salt Lake City..."


Montblack

I just got rid of my Vonage account now that we all have cell phones. I
got a 651 area code for the Twin Cities so all of our relatives could
call us for free. The service worked great.



Montblack wrote:

("Jay Honeck" wrote)

Holy crap! Sounds like you guys need to check out internet phone
service...

I hear it's cheap!



Vonage has $49.95 Small Business "unlimited" plan. Dedicated fax line,
local extensions (Salt Lake City area codes available) lots of features.

...only it doesn't show Montana as an option, yet.

Our friends have Vonage and have an extra Mexico City phone #. When his
wife's friends and family call, from Mexico city, it's a local call for
them, but rings in Minnesota at our friend's house.

So... maybe Salt Lake City could sign up with Vonage, then you would
call their local Billings, MT Vonage number. Much of your SLC phone
traffic would then be only a local call for you - if it works out that
way through Vonage. Not all, but a chunk of calls could go through Vonage.

$35K x 12 months = over $420,000. Wow!

Ham radio an option? "Calling Salt Lake City..."


Montblack

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
when the internet phone service can provide quality of service,
availability,
and "security" of dedicated lines [...]

Quality of service and availability, I can see those being arguable points
(even though I haven't heard any complaints from the friends of mine using
VoIP). But security? Strong encryption is pretty much standard on Internet
phone calls, while your POTS phone calls are all transmitted in the clear.
In the case of cordless phones, they are *broadcast* in the clear (unless
you have an encrypting phone...while most cordless phones have some simple
"security" features, they don't generally include truly secure encryption).

What is it about a dedicated line that you feel is MORE secure than VoIP?

Pete