Plates for PDA?

Kyler Laird wrote:

Stan Gosnell writes:

Georeference? The paper charts aren't georeferenced, so how would you do
that with the same thing on a PDA?

I think it would make a great community project to georeference
the plates. The main problem is that not all of the locations
on an FAA plate cleanly map to a physical location.

Would that be in lieu of jail time?

Stan Gosnell wrote:

"Kelly Bakst" wrote in news1VYc.16725$Bt5.901
@twister.socal.rr.com:

Yes - but I'm thinking about a package that lets you view a bunch of charts
(and send updates) and possibly geo-reference charts so you can "fly on
them".

Georeference? The paper charts aren't georeferenced, so how would you do
that with the same thing on a PDA? I'm not sure I understand what you're
getting at by "fly on them", either. Maybe I'm missing something.

Jeppesen geo-references its approach charts (and now en route charts) in Flight
Deck. But, that is prioprietary.

"Kelly Bakst" wrote in message


Any recommendations for plates to be viewed on a PDA, NOT including
PocketPlates?

I've been contemplating something similar, myself. Any reason you didn't
want to hear about PocketPlates? Or is that just the one you already know
about?

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
____________________

I owned Anywheremap a couple of years ago, and actually got my money back -
just got tired of the lousy customer service, broken promises, and straight
out lies (like that AWM has approaches - didn't then, and STILL doesn't,
although they advertise widely that it does) from the company. Would never
consider doing business with them again.

Kelly
"John T" wrote in message
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"Kelly Bakst" wrote in message


Any recommendations for plates to be viewed on a PDA, NOT including
PocketPlates?

I've been contemplating something similar, myself. Any reason you didn't
want to hear about PocketPlates? Or is that just the one you already know
about?

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415
____________________

"Kelly Bakst" wrote

I owned Anywheremap a couple of years ago, and actually got my money
back - just got tired of the lousy customer service, broken promises,
and straight out lies (like that AWM has approaches - didn't then, and
STILL doesn't, although they advertise widely that it does) from the
company. Would never consider doing business with them again.

I was one of the earliest users of AWM, and one of the first to
bail-out due to the reasons mentioned above. NEVER again....

Bob Moore

Look he www.myairplane.com

"Kelly Bakst" wrote in message .. .
Any recommendations for plates to be viewed on a PDA, NOT including
PocketPlates?

Kelly

Kelly Bakst wrote:
Any recommendations for plates to be viewed on a PDA, NOT including
PocketPlates?

Kelly,

Are approach charts/plates really usable and safe to use on a PDA? I'm
asking specifically about the small screen size (let's ignore the fact that
it runs on batteries etc). It seems like the Jepp size is about right. I
can't imagine either: 1. shrinking the page into a PDA's screen, or 2.
scrolling around while on an approach.

I look forward to reading your comments. Thanks,

Hilton

"Hilton" writes:

Are approach charts/plates really usable and safe to use on a PDA? I'm
asking specifically about the small screen size (let's ignore the fact that
it runs on batteries etc). It seems like the Jepp size is about right. I
can't imagine either: 1. shrinking the page into a PDA's screen, or 2.
scrolling around while on an approach.

What's wrong with scrolling? Do you really need to see the entire plate
when you're on the approach? I agree that you *do* need to be familiar
with it. That means you should certainly scroll/zoom around the whole
thing before starting the approach. Once you've begun, however, I'd
expect that just being able to see the area around the current location
(at a user-selected zoom level) would be enough. Maybe not. I haven't
tried it.

I'm using a pen computer with a nice big screen for my experiments these
days. I'm much more comfortable with that size.

--kyler

Kyler Laird wrote in
:

"Hilton" writes:

Are approach charts/plates really usable and safe to use on a PDA? I'm
asking specifically about the small screen size (let's ignore the fact
that it runs on batteries etc). It seems like the Jepp size is about
right. I can't imagine either: 1. shrinking the page into a PDA's
screen, or 2. scrolling around while on an approach.

What's wrong with scrolling? Do you really need to see the entire plate
when you're on the approach? I agree that you *do* need to be familiar
with it. That means you should certainly scroll/zoom around the whole
thing before starting the approach. Once you've begun, however, I'd
expect that just being able to see the area around the current location
(at a user-selected zoom level) would be enough. Maybe not. I haven't
tried it.

I'm with Hilton on this. I need to be able to see the entire plate, very
quickly. Sometimes I need to quickly reference a frequency, or an
altitude, or remind myself of the missed approach procedure, or any number
of things. I can't imagine doing this in a 2-pilot cockpit, much less
alone in minimum weather.

Maybe as a backup, just to follow along, but the standard Jepp plate is
about as small as is practical, I think. We're starting to investigate
some electronic flight bags, with the approach plates built in, and those
might work, but a screen the size of a PDA is just too small to work with,
as a sole source of approach information.

--
Regards,

Stan

Stan Gosnell writes:

Maybe as a backup, just to follow along, but the standard Jepp plate is
about as small as is practical, I think. We're starting to investigate
some electronic flight bags, with the approach plates built in, and those
might work, but a screen the size of a PDA is just too small to work with,
as a sole source of approach information.

It would beat getting the information from a controller.

--kyler