Filing with a STAR

"Robert M. Gary" wrote:
Its pretty rare that a STAR is actually given to a non-jet aircraft
though. Usually they want us away from the STAR so we don't get in the
way.

That seems to depend on the local way of doing things. I've been given the
Trinity One STAR going into Houston many times, although recently it's been
an abbreviated version. Memory is dim, but I'm pretty sure I got a STAR
into Atlanta once, too.
--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Its pretty rare that a STAR is actually given to a non-jet aircraft
though. Usually they want us away from the STAR so we don't get in the
way.

Depends where you're at.

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message om...
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in message ...
I'm going to be flying from ROC to BAF weekend after next. Just plugging
the end points into Aeroplanner gives me a nice simple route V2 ALB V146,
but I see that BAF has a STAR, SWEDE ONE. It's a bit longer than the
simple route, and since I've never flown that direction I don't know if I
should file what I want and expect them to reroute me along SWEDE ONE, or
should I just admit the inevitable and file SWEDE ONE? If I do that, how
do you put it in a flight plan? Is it V2 SYR V433 RKA RKA.SWEDE1?

Its pretty rare that a STAR is actually given to a non-jet aircraft
though. Usually they want us away from the STAR so we don't get in the
way.

-Robert

We almost always get the BLUBELL 1 STAR going into a variety of airports in the Houston area, from the
Northwest, whether we file for it or not.

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

Its pretty common to get the FERNANDO FIVE arrival into Santa Monica coming
in from the north.

-Brenor

Robert M. Gary ) wrote:

Its pretty rare that a STAR is actually given to a non-jet aircraft
though. Usually they want us away from the STAR so we don't get in the
way.

Fly into Boston's Logan Airport from the west and you will always
receive the Gardner Three arrival. Well, perhaps in the wee hours of
the morning prior to sunrise you might not, but during sunlight and into
the evening you will.

--
Peter

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Robert M. Gary ) wrote:

Its pretty rare that a STAR is actually given to a non-jet aircraft
though. Usually they want us away from the STAR so we don't get in the
way.

Fly into Boston's Logan Airport from the west and you will always
receive the Gardner Three arrival. Well, perhaps in the wee hours of
the morning prior to sunrise you might not, but during sunlight and into
the evening you will.



Fly your prop job into Logan from the East, and you'll receive a STAR!!

G Faris

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Robert M. Gary ) wrote:

Its pretty rare that a STAR is actually given to a non-jet aircraft
though. Usually they want us away from the STAR so we don't get in the
way.

Fly into Boston's Logan Airport from the west and you will always
receive the Gardner Three arrival. Well, perhaps in the wee hours of
the morning prior to sunrise you might not, but during sunlight and into
the evening you will.



Fly your prop job into Logan from the East, and you'll receive a STAR!!

I've never come in from the East (as in, the Atlantic?), but I am sure
you are correct.

--
Peter

I'm still studying for the rating, so I've never done this, but can't you
just say "no SIDS, no STARS" in the remarks, and they can't give it to you.

Brad
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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I'm going to be flying from ROC to BAF weekend after next. Just plugging
the end points into Aeroplanner gives me a nice simple route V2 ALB V146,
but I see that BAF has a STAR, SWEDE ONE. It's a bit longer than the
simple route, and since I've never flown that direction I don't know if I
should file what I want and expect them to reroute me along SWEDE ONE, or
should I just admit the inevitable and file SWEDE ONE? If I do that, how
do you put it in a flight plan? Is it V2 SYR V433 RKA RKA.SWEDE1?


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
The same thing we do every night Tux. Try to take over the world!

In a previous article, "Brad Salai" said:
I'm still studying for the rating, so I've never done this, but can't you
just say "no SIDS, no STARS" in the remarks, and they can't give it to you.

If they want you along the STAR, then all this will mean is that you will
have to copy and read back a full route clearance (which will look
suspiciously like the textual description of the STAR) instead of the name
of the STAR.

I've never understood why anybody would want to say "no SIDS, no STARS"
(or more correctly now, "no DPs, no STARS"?) unless they want practice
copying and reading back full route clearances.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"An appointment is an engagement to see someone, while a morningstar is a
large lump of metal used for viciously crushing skulls. It is important not
to confuse the two, isn't it, Mr. --?" - Terry Pratchett

I think it's because they have a misconception that they won't be
given the DP/STAR if they put "No DP/No STAR" in the comments
section. I think if they realized they were going to get it anyway,
they wouldn't do it.


"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
In a previous article, "Brad Salai" said:
I'm still studying for the rating, so I've never done this, but can't you
just say "no SIDS, no STARS" in the remarks, and they can't give it to
you.

If they want you along the STAR, then all this will mean is that you will
have to copy and read back a full route clearance (which will look
suspiciously like the textual description of the STAR) instead of the name
of the STAR.

I've never understood why anybody would want to say "no SIDS, no STARS"
(or more correctly now, "no DPs, no STARS"?) unless they want practice
copying and reading back full route clearances.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"An appointment is an engagement to see someone, while a morningstar is a
large lump of metal used for viciously crushing skulls. It is important
not
to confuse the two, isn't it, Mr. --?" - Terry Pratchett