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For example, the S-TEC 55X will continue to fly the airplane in
GPSS mode if the PFD or ADAHARS fails, but heading mode would be unavailable due to the lack of heading input. If the AP lost heading data during HDG mode operation, it would begin a large circling maneuver. If it was in GPSS mode at the time of the failure, it would continue operating seamlessly. I realize you probably left this out on purpose to be brief, but technically this is only true if GPS1 was already driving the autopilot or if GPS1 and GPS2 have identical flight plans loaded and activated. It's not true if GPS2 is flying the plane and GPS1 is inop or has a different flight plan active. The Stec 55X will also still work in altitude hold or vertical speed modes because its uses its own static pressure sensor separate from the EFIS. These are the kinds of details autopilot users ought to know cold. |
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Cocomo wrote:
I realize you probably left this out on purpose to be brief, but technically this is only true if GPS1 was already driving the autopilot or if GPS1 and GPS2 have identical flight plans loaded and activated. It's not true if GPS2 is flying the plane and GPS1 is inop or has a different flight plan active. The Stec 55X will also still work in altitude hold or vertical speed modes because its uses its own static pressure sensor separate from the EFIS. These are the kinds of details autopilot users ought to know cold. Thanks for the reply. Yes, that gets a bit too Cirrus-specific when answering to the general autopilot question. But since you bring it up, I'm not sure what your point is - the example referred to a PFD or ADAHARS failure resulting in a loss of heading data sent to the 55X, which, if the 55X is currently in HDG mode, will always result in the behavior I described. If the autopilot is in GPSS mode, regardless of which GPS is providing the steering input, loss of heading data will not affect that mode of operation. -Ryan |
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Actually, the Century I is rate based (turn coodinator based). In fact
the whole autopilot (except the servos) are contained in the turn coordinator. It does not, in my case, couple to the DG. I like this, it isn't dependent on the DG, and thus not dependent on the vacuum pump. As it is now, it is totally electric. So I have it if I lose the vacuum gyros (AI and DG). It couples to either the VOR (gets its left and right from the VOR head), and the IFR GPS (gets its left and right from the OBS indicator). If you uncouple it, it uses the TC only to fly without turning (it will drift, and I don't mean wind drift). All aircraft are a little out of rig. There is a "trim" knob for the autopilot that will bias it left or right. There is also a knob that you can turn and the autopilot will turn the airplane, up to standard rate. It uses the VOR head for right/left, and works with this if the VOR is on the localizer. It's a simple setup. No altitude hold or altitude anything. The servos turn using the ailerons. If the autopilot gets a left signal from the OBS indicator (or VOR head), it starts a turn. It then looks to the TC to see if it is making progress. It turns constantly, first one way, then the other (very small turns). In calm air, it can outfly any pilot, especially if coupled to the GPS. If the TC stops working, the autopilot keeps turning the plane, all the way to a a very steep bank. Bad failure. If the GPS stops working, the autopilot would get no left or right from the OBS, and just keep flying straight ahead (with small corrections), pretty much like it does when it is uncoupled. I do not know what it would do if the servos stopped working. Just make sure you watch the AI and DG while the autopilot is on, as these are the gyros it does not use. You can ignore the TC. Ryan Ferguson wrote in message ... john smith wrote: I am interested in learning from everyone... a. What autopilot your aircraft is equipped with? b. What aircraft your autopilot is installed in? c. What does your autopilot use for heading/altitude/attitude reference? d. What does your autopilot use for loc/gs reference? e. If your heading/altitude/attitude reference fails, what functions does you autopilot still provide? f. With failed heading/altitude/attitude reference, does the loc/gs still function? Good questions all - for me, this is an item of emphasis when providing Cirrus (SR-20 or 22) transition training. The failure modes are relatively varied and sophisticated, and really require an understanding of how the S-TEC 55X interfaces with the PFD, air data computer, and the Garmins 430s. Assuming the discussion is GA-centric, you can boil this down into two "basic" categories of autopilots - rate-based, and attitude-based. S-TEC is rate-based, which essentially means it's measuring your rate of turn for roll and heading control. Century's autopilots (which I'd consider to be old-tech equipment) look at the attitude indicator. If the AI is getting tired and leans a little to the left when the wings are level, the AP will fly the right wing low when trying to maintain heading. I fly several autopilots regularly. I fly the old (Altimatic, i.e. Century), the recent (KAP 140, the ubiquitous King AP installed in most current vintage single-engine Cessna airplanes), and the modern (S-TEC 55X, the best of the bunch in my opinion.) The answers to your questions would be largely different for all of them. Also, there are more questions you'd need to ask to completely understand the failure modes. For example, the S-TEC 55X will continue to fly the airplane in GPSS mode if the PFD or ADAHARS fails, but heading mode would be unavailable due to the lack of heading input. If the AP lost heading data during HDG mode operation, it would begin a large circling maneuver. If it was in GPSS mode at the time of the failure, it would continue operating seamlessly. Anyway, I don't have time to answer all of those questions for each of the autopilots I fly, but there you have some thoughts on the matter. -Ryan ATP/CFII (airplanes and helicopters) |
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Basically, autopilot failure modes can be summarized as these:
Turns right instead of turning left Turns left instead of turning right Goes up instead of going down Goes down instead of going up An airplane is ALWAYS turning and going up or down, it's never really in steady state. These pertubations can be small or large. (like a steep turn descending spiral or a gentle turn). john smith wrote in message ... I am interested in learning from everyone... a. What autopilot your aircraft is equipped with? b. What aircraft your autopilot is installed in? c. What does your autopilot use for heading/altitude/attitude reference? d. What does your autopilot use for loc/gs reference? e. If your heading/altitude/attitude reference fails, what functions does you autopilot still provide? f. With failed heading/altitude/attitude reference, does the loc/gs still function? |
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![]() "Matt Barrow" wrote in message news:... You might want to take a gander at this article. I'm not sure what you mean by slow corrections, but evidently S-TEC (taken with a grain of salt) has optimized the corrections, as well as smoothed them to avoid overstressing the aircraft in turbulence. See Pages 6 & 7. http://www.s-tec.com/pdf/autopilotbook.pdf Addendum to lost (by my ISP) post. Meggitt 1500 & 2100 AP's use a hybrid of attitude and rate information through the ADAHRS system. Sorta of "best of both worlds"? |
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