Instrument Rating Checkride PASSED (Very Long)

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:24:26 -0000, "Chris" wrote:

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That does suggest that flying in IMC is not what should happen on an
instrument checkride.



There's also the question of the plane itself. One sage piece of
advice my instructor gave me was: "don't take a GA plane into IMC
unless you've flown it recently in VMC. Even then, be very, very
careful if it's a rented plane."

Putting myself in the place of the examiner, I'd certainly not be
willing to take an unknown plane into IMC with an unknown pilot beside
me.

Tim.

But the examiner does not know ahead of time how the student is going to
handle IMC. The student could freak out and lose control in IMC. As an
instructor do not take a new student in IMC until I have flown with that
student a few times. The examiner does not have that luxury.


"G. Sylvester" wrote in news:eDMud.41454
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congrats on passing. I'm coming to final part of my traniing and I
can't wait.

In the
morning, it was still raining with a low ceiling. Since the
checkride needs
to be flown in VFR conditions, we had to cancel and reschedule the
checkride.

I'm fairly certain you can take the checkride in IMC. Of course it is
also up to the DPE. I'm sure you need VMC for the 'bad attitude' parts
but otherwise why not shoot approaches in IMC. If he doesn't
feel confident to pass you under the hood, do you think he's going to
sign you off solo?

Gerald

On 12 Dec 2004 20:13:52 -0600, Andrew Sarangan
wrote:

But the examiner does not know ahead of time how the student is going to
handle IMC. The student could freak out and lose control in IMC. As an
instructor do not take a new student in IMC until I have flown with that
student a few times. The examiner does not have that luxury.


So in effect, the FAA is saying "We don't want you endangering our
highly experienced instrument examiners because you might freak out
the first time you are IMC, but we don't care if you endanger your
wife and kids or any other unsuspecting passenger after you get your
ticket, so go test your skills on them"?

I don't think so.

From the DE's point of view, flying in IMC is a risky. What if the
student can't do it? He would have to take over in an airplane that he
may not be familiar with. There are also the added unknowns of dealing
with ATC. ATC might not be able to give the DE the clearances he needs
to satisfy the PTS.

From the student's point of view, well, personally, I would prefer not
to do it. I have had enough problems with ATC to not want to add that
to my workload.

But, bottom line, it is up to the DE. Some have given checkrides in
IMC. It is not prohibited.

Congrat Alan -

It took me 2 years for training and 9 hours for my IFR checkride.
Having so much on my plane, I took time off. That's why the 2 years.
Working 3 jobs, being a husband and dad of 3 teens then adding IFR
training. Had so much going, my evaluator said either I'd make it or
bust a few area. So I went for it and made.

Started at 9 a.m. Did my flight to another city. Discussions on all
topics. Turned out I ended up asking questions and having a very good
chat about IFR topics. About 2 p.m, went out to preflight. Flew for
about less then 90 minutes. Landed. Nothing was said except for the
inspector asked if I was going to do anything to the plane. I said,
"don't know exactly what you mean? He said, "is there anything wrong
with the plane"? I replied, nothing. I flew just fine. Then he
proceeded to hit about his navy experience about holes in the wings
from someone shooting his plane during a low flight training period. I
got the hint and did a walk around the plane. Noted nothing was wrong
and if there was something, I would have logged it for the next pilot.


After all was done, he congradulated me. I said for what? I passed.
I'll never forget that feeling. Just like getting out of college.
After the post flight discussion, I was dismissed.
9 hours. Enjoyed every minute of it and learned a lot.
Congratulation.