IFR Checkride WX Questions

On Feb 2, 1:39 am, "tscottme" wrote:
"kevmor" wrote in message

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Our flight school CFIIs strongly suggested you bring your FAR/AIM to the
oral and the ride. Look up any of the "trivia" you aren't sure about.

When my applicants show up for a checkride, I have them bring a moving
box full of all the books they used in training. However for
interpreting the classic charts you really should have the coder
sheets printed out and ready.

-Robert

Those black-and-white charts, beloved of the test writers in OKC, are slowly
going away. They are hard to find on the ADDS page as it is. Good riddance.
The color charts are much easier to read.

Bob Gardner

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Feb 1, 8:41 pm, "kevmor" wrote:
So my IR checkride is approaching, and the thing I'm the most sketchy
on I think is the weather charts. I'm fine with TAF, METAR, and other
textual, but I guess it's because I can't find all the exact same
graphics on DUATS/DUAT that they use on the FAA exam (prognostic
charts, etc). Even DUAT/DUATS show things slightly differently. How
much is this going to be asked about on the checkride? Should I know
every possible symbol for all those charts, or is getting a general
idea and then calling 800-WX-BRIEF good enough?


For your checkride, your DE will likely require you to show him the
"classic" charts. Radar Summary, Surface Analysis, Constant Pressure,
Weather Depiction). Since pilots only use these charts on checkrides,
there are somewhat hidden on aviationweather.gov. Try
http://aviationweather.gov/std_brief/


-Robert, CFII

On Feb 2, 9:36 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Feb 1, 10:37 pm, "Jim Macklin"

Once rated, few pilots every use
these old style charts.

-Robert, CFII


The few, the proud, the...

I use the weather depiction and radar summary, among numerous other
weather products, every day.

They are fantastic!

http://aviationweather.gov/std_brief/

ak.

On Feb 2, 10:55 am, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
Those black-and-white charts, beloved of the test writers in OKC, are slowly
going away. They are hard to find on the ADDS page as it is. Good riddance.
The color charts are much easier to read.

Bob Gardner

Here 'ya go Bob!

http://aviationweather.gov/std_brief/

I, for one, hope they don't go away!
ak.

Most of the DEs I know have their own collection of old
charts that they "know" and that do show some weather. Most
students today will have a full text and graphics print of
the on-line briefing in all formats.




"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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| On Feb 1, 10:37 pm, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
| Know how to interpret the material from on-line sources.
| The key is, can you draw a crude picture of the weather
| [verbally or with a pencil] and then apply that to the
FAR
| as to whether the weather, currently and forecast, will
| allow the operation.
|
| Partly, but every DE I've ever worked with required the
applicant to
| show up with the classic charts and exhibit knowledge of
the symbols
| (i.e. carry a secret decoder ring). Once rated, few pilots
every use
| these old style charts.
|
| -Robert, CFII
|

I know how to find them, I just think that they aren't as good as the
color/interactive charts.

Bob

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On Feb 2, 10:55 am, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
Those black-and-white charts, beloved of the test writers in OKC, are
slowly
going away. They are hard to find on the ADDS page as it is. Good
riddance.
The color charts are much easier to read.

Bob Gardner

Here 'ya go Bob!

http://aviationweather.gov/std_brief/

I, for one, hope they don't go away!
ak.

On Feb 2, 10:55 am, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
Those black-and-white charts, beloved of the test writers in OKC, are slowly
going away. They are hard to find on the ADDS page as it is. Good riddance.
The color charts are much easier to read.

Those charts probably made sense in the days of walking into the FSS
and looking at B&W printouts. Nowadays with computers we have less
official products that are so much better.

-Robert

Jim Macklin wrote:
Know how to interpret the material from on-line sources.
The key is, can you draw a crude picture of the weather
[verbally or with a pencil] and then apply that to the FAR
as to whether the weather, currently and forecast, will
allow the operation.

You are not becoming a weather briefer or a professional
chart maker.

Nor a meterologists.

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:55:21 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:

"Jim Macklin" wrote:
Know how to interpret the material from on-line sources.
The key is, can you draw a crude picture of the weather
[verbally or with a pencil] and then apply that to the FAR
as to whether the weather, currently and forecast, will
allow the operation.

When I was doing my training (early 90's), I found studying the chart
material very difficult, for two reasons. First, the charts they showed
you in the study guides were badly reproduced, sometimes to the point of

When I took the written (on computer) they used low res *EGA*
monitors. I could not read the charts as presented or even the text
identifiers on those screens. Those were the only questions I missed.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On 02/02/07 19:15, Roger wrote:
On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 07:55:21 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:

"Jim Macklin" wrote:
Know how to interpret the material from on-line sources.
The key is, can you draw a crude picture of the weather
[verbally or with a pencil] and then apply that to the FAR
as to whether the weather, currently and forecast, will
allow the operation.

When I was doing my training (early 90's), I found studying the chart
material very difficult, for two reasons. First, the charts they showed
you in the study guides were badly reproduced, sometimes to the point of

When I took the written (on computer) they used low res *EGA*
monitors. I could not read the charts as presented or even the text
identifiers on those screens. Those were the only questions I missed.

I took my tests on computer as well, but was provided with the associated
booklet which contained all the graphics. This was in 2004/5.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com



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