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![]() "Mike Isaksen" wrote in message news:wTBxi.3779$5y3.3374@trndny07... "Neil Gould" wrote ... And where (at what levels) do you see the G1000 system as being modular? I see the "system" as almost a "single box", and when components fail or Key word: Component Now, if Garmin is tied to and using only single source vendors for those COMPONENTS, then it's a bad bet. Now, if there's a ton of companies world-wide (including Garmin) who can DUPLICATE those components, it's a whole different story. |
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![]() "Larry Dighera" wrote in message news ![]() GARMIN G1000 PROBLEM AFFECTS GA DELIVERIES (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195931) A problem with a component of the Garmin G1000 glass panel, a popular choice for avionics in many general aviation aircraft, has stalled production and delayed deliveries at factories around the country as Garmin searches for a fix. The problem stems from a sudden increase in failure rates in recent flight tests of new GRS 77 AHRS (Attitude Heading Reference System) units used in G1000 installations, Garmin said on Tuesday. A component failure in the GRS 77 results in a loss of attitude information on the primary flight display. "After communication with Garmin's OEM partners and the FAA, it was determined that in all G1000 installations, continued safe flight can be conducted with the stand-by attitude indicator and other available instruments," the company said in a statement. "If pilots should experience a failure of the GRS 77 AHRS, they should follow standard procedures and refer to the standby attitude indicator." http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195931 COLUMBIA LAYS OFF 300, CITES GARMIN G1000 ISSUE (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195932) At Columbia Aircraft in Bend, Ore., the company announced on Monday () that it would halt its production line and lay off about 300 workers until problems with Garmin G1000s could be resolved. Although Garmin says the AHRS problem does not require limitations on use of the aircraft, Columbia spokesman Randy Bolinger told AVweb that, nonetheless, "the FAA will not allow us to complete Certificates of Airworthiness with a known defect. The FAA will allow us to certify the aircraft already on the assembly line for VFR only." Columbia said in its statement that the production line will "grind to a halt" until a fix is found and parts shipments are restored. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195932 GARMIN SNAFU ALSO AFFECTS OTHER AIRFRAMERS (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195933) At Cessna Aircraft in Wichita, Kan., production has continued despite the G1000 problems, Director of Corporate Communications Doug Oliver told AVweb on Tuesday. "We anticipate a resolution from Garmin literally any minute," he said. However, deliveries of single-engine piston aircraft are suspended until the issue is resolved. "Mustang deliveries were originally suspended as well," Oliver said, "but due to its lower production rate its avionics systems were installed some time ago, before the suspect batch was produced. This has, of course, been confirmed through testing and approved by the FAA." Oliver said he doesn't anticipate any impact on production at Cessna. At Diamond Aircraft, spokeswoman Heike Larson told AVweb that production will continue. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195933 Scary!!! |
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Sounds like a good excuse to layoff 300 people. It doesnt take that many to
install the G1000. I would say columbia is in trouble. JMHO "Larry Dighera" wrote in message news ![]() GARMIN G1000 PROBLEM AFFECTS GA DELIVERIES (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195931) A problem with a component of the Garmin G1000 glass panel, a popular choice for avionics in many general aviation aircraft, has stalled production and delayed deliveries at factories around the country as Garmin searches for a fix. The problem stems from a sudden increase in failure rates in recent flight tests of new GRS 77 AHRS (Attitude Heading Reference System) units used in G1000 installations, Garmin said on Tuesday. A component failure in the GRS 77 results in a loss of attitude information on the primary flight display. "After communication with Garmin's OEM partners and the FAA, it was determined that in all G1000 installations, continued safe flight can be conducted with the stand-by attitude indicator and other available instruments," the company said in a statement. "If pilots should experience a failure of the GRS 77 AHRS, they should follow standard procedures and refer to the standby attitude indicator." http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195931 COLUMBIA LAYS OFF 300, CITES GARMIN G1000 ISSUE (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195932) At Columbia Aircraft in Bend, Ore., the company announced on Monday () that it would halt its production line and lay off about 300 workers until problems with Garmin G1000s could be resolved. Although Garmin says the AHRS problem does not require limitations on use of the aircraft, Columbia spokesman Randy Bolinger told AVweb that, nonetheless, "the FAA will not allow us to complete Certificates of Airworthiness with a known defect. The FAA will allow us to certify the aircraft already on the assembly line for VFR only." Columbia said in its statement that the production line will "grind to a halt" until a fix is found and parts shipments are restored. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195932 GARMIN SNAFU ALSO AFFECTS OTHER AIRFRAMERS (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195933) At Cessna Aircraft in Wichita, Kan., production has continued despite the G1000 problems, Director of Corporate Communications Doug Oliver told AVweb on Tuesday. "We anticipate a resolution from Garmin literally any minute," he said. However, deliveries of single-engine piston aircraft are suspended until the issue is resolved. "Mustang deliveries were originally suspended as well," Oliver said, "but due to its lower production rate its avionics systems were installed some time ago, before the suspect batch was produced. This has, of course, been confirmed through testing and approved by the FAA." Oliver said he doesn't anticipate any impact on production at Cessna. At Diamond Aircraft, spokeswoman Heike Larson told AVweb that production will continue. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195933 |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:01:40 -0700, "Aluckyguess" wrote:
Sounds like a good excuse to layoff 300 people. It doesnt take that many to install the G1000. I would say columbia is in trouble. JMHO Then again, if they can't deliver any airplanes because they can't complete the avionics installation, it makes little sense to keep *building* airplanes. Ron Wanttaja |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:01:40 -0700, "Aluckyguess" wrote in
: Sounds like a good excuse to layoff 300 people. It doesnt take that many to install the G1000. I would say columbia is in trouble. JMHO If the Garmin issue prevents aircraft from being delivered, perhaps the lack of revenue impacts Columbia's ability to meet their payroll. |
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Aluckyguess,
Sounds like a good excuse to layoff 300 people. It doesnt take that many to install the G1000. I would say columbia is in trouble. Exactly my thought. Every other manufacturer can work around this, only Columbia has to fire 300? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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![]() GARMIN RESOLVES G1000 ISSUE, MANUFACTURERS RELIEVED (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195978) A problem that stalled shipments of Garmin G1000 avionics last week (), affecting deliveries of some piston aircraft, has been resolved, Garmin said on Monday. Garmin has resumed shipments of the GRS 77 AHRS (Attitude Heading Reference System) units, which were the cause of the snafu, used in G1000 installations. "All affected aircraft manufacturers will begin receiving GRS 77 units immediately so that they can resume aircraft deliveries," Garmin said. Production of the GRS 77 will increase incrementally as Garmin ramps up the production line. The AHRS problem was caused by a production process change by a component supplier, Garmin said. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195978 |
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Recently, Larry Dighera posted:
GARMIN RESOLVES G1000 ISSUE, MANUFACTURERS RELIEVED (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195978) A problem that stalled shipments of Garmin G1000 avionics last week (), affecting deliveries of some piston aircraft, has been resolved, Garmin said on Monday. Garmin has resumed shipments of the GRS 77 AHRS (Attitude Heading Reference System) units, which were the cause of the snafu, used in G1000 installations. "All affected aircraft manufacturers will begin receiving GRS 77 units immediately so that they can resume aircraft deliveries," Garmin said. Production of the GRS 77 will increase incrementally as Garmin ramps up the production line. The AHRS problem was caused by a production process change by a component supplier, Garmin said. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195978 Thanks for the update, Larry. It seems to me that Columbia's layoff may cost them more than if they simply retained the employees for the duration. Neil |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:40:21 -0500, "Neil Gould"
wrote in : Recently, Larry Dighera posted: GARMIN RESOLVES G1000 ISSUE, MANUFACTURERS RELIEVED (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195978) A problem that stalled shipments of Garmin G1000 avionics last week (), affecting deliveries of some piston aircraft, has been resolved, Garmin said on Monday. Garmin has resumed shipments of the GRS 77 AHRS (Attitude Heading Reference System) units, which were the cause of the snafu, used in G1000 installations. "All affected aircraft manufacturers will begin receiving GRS 77 units immediately so that they can resume aircraft deliveries," Garmin said. Production of the GRS 77 will increase incrementally as Garmin ramps up the production line. The AHRS problem was caused by a production process change by a component supplier, Garmin said. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195978 Thanks for the update, Larry. It seems to me that Columbia's layoff may cost them more than if they simply retained the employees for the duration. Neil Well, if the payroll costs of 300 employees averaged $25/each, Columbia will have saved $7,500 for a five-day layoff. I'm not sure about the costs of laying them off and bringing them back to work, are you? |
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Recently, Larry Dighera posted:
(snipped for brevity) On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:40:21 -0500, "Neil Gould" wrote in Thanks for the update, Larry. It seems to me that Columbia's layoff may cost them more than if they simply retained the employees for the duration. Well, if the payroll costs of 300 employees averaged $25/each, Columbia will have saved $7,500 for a five-day layoff. I'm not sure about the costs of laying them off and bringing them back to work, are you? No, I am not sure about the costs, as there are several factors that can affect those costs. I'm pretty sure that it isn't a "clean" savings based solely on payroll, though. For instance, some of those laid off workers may have taken other opportunities, and if so, there will be training costs for their replacements, and depending on the state laws Colombia may have to cover unemployment compensation costs, etc. Neil |
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