Time to medical help

On 2008-02-20, Robert M. Gary wrote:
Are you saying that all the emergency drugs in an ambulance are
available without a Dr's concent?

When I was a volunteer paramedic, all of the drugs on our ambulance had
prescriptions on file from our medical director. I wouldn't be surprised if
the airlines had similar arrangements.
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Jay Maynard wrote:
On 2008-02-20, Robert M. Gary wrote:

Are you saying that all the emergency drugs in an ambulance are
available without a Dr's concent?


When I was a volunteer paramedic, all of the drugs on our ambulance had
prescriptions on file from our medical director. I wouldn't be surprised if
the airlines had similar arrangements.

Not to mention, most major airlines today have instant medical
consultation available to the flight crew, via satellite link.

Happy Flying!
Scott Skylane

Jay Maynard wrote:
On 2008-02-20, Robert M. Gary wrote:

Are you saying that all the emergency drugs in an ambulance are
available without a Dr's concent?


When I was a volunteer paramedic, all of the drugs on our ambulance had
prescriptions on file from our medical director. I wouldn't be surprised if
the airlines had similar arrangements.

No, airline personnel aren't nearly as well trained as paramedics. Some
of the stuff can be used only if an MD can be found on the flight.

Robert M. Gary writes:

So are you saying the Epipens that several of the dads in the troop
who are medical doctors put in the kit are fake?

I'm saying that each needs a prescription for use. Epipens contain controlled
substances. They can only be used subsequent to a valid prescription. You
cannot just carry them around for self-service any more than you can carry
Fentanyl around.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:


So are you saying the Epipens that several of the dads in the troop
who are medical doctors put in the kit are fake?


I'm saying that each needs a prescription for use. Epipens contain controlled
substances. They can only be used subsequent to a valid prescription. You
cannot just carry them around for self-service any more than you can carry
Fentanyl around.

You just simply don't know what you are talking about.

Federal regulation pertaining to U.S. certificated Part 121 air carriers
trumps any prescription laws.

§ 121.803 Emergency medical equipment.

And, in particular, Appendix A to 121.803.

On Feb 21, 8:11*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:
So are you saying the Epipens that several of the dads in the troop
who are medical doctors put in the kit are fake?

I'm saying that each needs a prescription for use. *Epipens contain controlled
substances. *They can only be used subsequent to a valid prescription. *You
cannot just carry them around for self-service any more than you can carry
Fentanyl around.

So as a Scout Master if I'm standing over a boy going into shock I
can't give him his Epipen? I have to wait for a a medical evac?? The
dad's in the troop who are MD's have provided training for us to admin
the pen and I have a list of which boys are known to have severe
reactions to such things.

-Robert

Epinephrine is a prescription drug (FDA regulated). It may be carried
just as any other prescription drug may be: with proper prescription.
Such epinephrine prescriptions (usually for autoinjectors such as
Epipens) cover patients such as those with an anaphylaxis risk.

Fentanyl is a prescription drug (FDA), and it is also a controlled
substance (Drug Enforcement Agency of the Department of Justice). It
may be carried just as other controlled substances may be: with proper
prescription. Such fentanyl prescriptions (usually for transmucosal
fentanyl such as Actiq) cover patients such as those with opioid-treated
cancer pain.

David



David Kazdan, MD, PhD
Anesthesiologist



Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:

So are you saying the Epipens that several of the dads in the troop
who are medical doctors put in the kit are fake?

I'm saying that each needs a prescription for use. Epipens contain controlled
substances. They can only be used subsequent to a valid prescription. You
cannot just carry them around for self-service any more than you can carry
Fentanyl around.

Hilton wrote:
Hi,

I have a question from a friend. Her daughters have nut allergies. She
wants to know how long it takes from cruise (41K?) to a gate from the time
they notify the crew of a medical emergency (e.g. anaphylactic shock).
Obviously it depends on their proximity to a suitable airport, but I'd like
to hear from the airline pilots in this group. She is specifically
referring to a flight from the SF Bay Area to the NY area.

She does have some medication/injection to give them, but obviously she
would want real medical treatment ASAP.

As a pilot, what kind of descent rates can a 737/A320/747 etc get in a
medical mergency? Would this descent rate be different than a descent for
decompression?

Thanks,

Hilton


Several years back I was on a flight from Atlanta to Orlando on a B-757.
About halfway there we were at 31000 ft. and I heard one flight
attendant tell another "We're got to get this stuff (referring to
service items)picked up NOW!" About that time the spoilers popped up,
and we nosed down. There had been smoke in the passenger cabin, with
somewhat of a electrical insulation odor and we were heading to
Jacksonville as fas as we could get on the ground. As I recall, we were
on the ground and at the gate in less than 15 minutes from the first
indications of an 'event'. (The problem turned out to be a minor short
in the crew computer.)
Mike

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Mike writes:

Several years back I was on a flight from Atlanta to Orlando on a B-757.
About halfway there we were at 31000 ft. and I heard one flight
attendant tell another "We're got to get this stuff (referring to
service items)picked up NOW!" About that time the spoilers popped up,
and we nosed down. There had been smoke in the passenger cabin, with
somewhat of a electrical insulation odor and we were heading to
Jacksonville as fas as we could get on the ground. As I recall, we were
on the ground and at the gate in less than 15 minutes from the first
indications of an 'event'. (The problem turned out to be a minor short
in the crew computer.)

An emergency affecting the entire flight is different from an emergency
affecting a single passenger.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Mike writes:

Several years back I was on a flight from Atlanta to Orlando on a B-757.
About halfway there we were at 31000 ft. and I heard one flight
attendant tell another "We're got to get this stuff (referring to
service items)picked up NOW!" About that time the spoilers popped up,
and we nosed down. There had been smoke in the passenger cabin, with
somewhat of a electrical insulation odor and we were heading to
Jacksonville as fas as we could get on the ground. As I recall, we were
on the ground and at the gate in less than 15 minutes from the first
indications of an 'event'. (The problem turned out to be a minor short
in the crew computer.)

An emergency affecting the entire flight is different from an emergency
affecting a single passenger.

Not for the single passenger.

Hilton