See and Avoid - Birds

*In the video, it looks like he might have been able do it. *

The key word in your post was 'might'. He also 'migh't have made it
to Teterboro, which too was rejected. The Hudson was the only sure
bet. At least if that plan went south it was only 155 people instead
of an entire neigborhood or urban block's worth as well...

-Paul

On Mar 11, 11:33*am, sisu1a wrote:
*In the video, it looks like he might have been able do it. *

The key word in your post was 'might'. * He also 'migh't have made it
to Teterboro, which too was rejected. * *The Hudson was the only sure
bet. At least if that plan went south it was only 155 people instead
of an entire *neigborhood or urban block's worth as well...

-Paul

AFAIK, there is no procedure for a double engine failure - Sully was
writing the book as he went. The man deserves enormous credit for
pulling it off.

I did hear that one simulation showed that IF he had turned for
Teterboro exactly at the time of the bird strike, he MIGHT have made
it with a very thin margin. For it to work, the option would have had
to have been pre-planned. All things considered, the Hudson was the
best option.

For glider pilots, the take home lesson is that we all need well
considered options in mind for every takeoff. The probability of a
PTT is infinitely greater than a double engine failure.

On Mar 11, 11:33*am, bildan wrote:
AFAIK, there is no procedure for a double engine failure - Sully was
writing the book as he went. *


I don't know the A320 but I think every transport aircraft I have
worked on has an all engine out procedure. I just checked MD-11,
MD-10, A300, A310 for which I have documentation at my desk, and each
has an "all engine flameout" procedure.

Andy

On Mar 11, 1:32*pm, Andy wrote:
On Mar 11, 11:33*am, bildan wrote:

AFAIK, there is no procedure for a double engine failure - Sully was
writing the book as he went. *

I don't know the A320 but I think every transport aircraft I have
worked on has an all engine out procedure. *I just checked MD-11,
MD-10, A300, A310 for which I have documentation at my desk, and each
has an "all engine flameout" procedure.

Andy

Somewhere I read that the reason that they didn't activate the
ditching button was that, that action was on page 3 of the all engine
out checklist. They never made it past page 1 of the check list.

Brian

sisu1a wrote:
In the video, it looks like he might have been able do it.

The key word in your post was 'might'. He also 'migh't have made it
to Teterboro, which too was rejected. The Hudson was the only sure
bet. At least if that plan went south it was only 155 people instead
of an entire neigborhood or urban block's worth as well...

-Paul
Agreed. That's why I put might in there It's just that I "practice"
this very thing on my Microsoft Flight Sim with a model of my Corben
Junior Ace (and the only thing that beats it to the ground after an
engine failure is an anvul) and have gotten somewhat proficient at it
now. Granted, it's only a sim and nobody dies if I screw up

Is there any statistics showing what the success rate of water landings is?

Scott