A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Soaring
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Minimum acceptable self-launch climb rate



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old April 27th 20, 03:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jld
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 35
Default Minimum acceptable self-launch climb rate

You will probably get more than the ASW24E.
The very high drag from the pylon with engine, like the ASW24E, reduces the glider L/D below 20, which start to have a significant effect on climb performance. This is probably a 100-150 ft/min difference.
It is more difficult to get the published power rating from 2 strokes carburated engines than it is from electrical motors.

Concerning GP15, its pylon is very low drag and most important, it is very light.
For climb performance it is not the wing loading but the weight which drives climb performance. To takeoff at 8.5 lb/ft2 with the ASW24E you need to be at 425 kg. With the GP15, you only need to 330 kg for the same wing loading.
Because of the available shaft power, drag and weight differences, I have no doubt the GP will have at least a 30% climb advantage with similar takeoff conditions.

  #2  
Old April 28th 20, 02:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
[email protected]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 61
Default Minimum acceptable self-launch climb rate

I used to self-launch in an Arcus M and many other types. I was happy that the Arcus had a significant margin between best climb RPM and redline. IIRC about 400rpm margin.
In turbulent conditions, close to the ground, I could maintain 63kts while climbing.

I guess the same applies to the DG1001M and Quintus, but I don't remember precisely.

Redline is a serious concern in the DG600M. Probably a little less so in the DG400.

Aldo Cernezzi
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR Mxsmanic Piloting 113 February 17th 08 06:42 AM
Why Isn't Vx The Best Rate Of Climb? RandyL Piloting 18 September 28th 06 07:50 PM
figuring Rate of Climb Michael Horowitz Home Built 1 June 19th 05 03:16 AM
Rate of climb Dillon Pyron Home Built 3 May 8th 04 01:08 PM
Minimum rate of climb or descent Aaron Kahn Instrument Flight Rules 3 July 25th 03 03:22 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.