FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate

I agree with Karl..........when that low...........nose up, then roll..........like checking for your spot on the range.
Enjoy your videos,
JJ

On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 10:21:01 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I agree with Karl..........when that low...........nose up, then roll..........like checking for your spot on the range.
Enjoy your videos,
JJ

The origin of the "50 foot" rule in contests, when using the line finish, comes from a pilot turning before pulling and running his wing tip through a corn field.
Observers said it sounded like a machine gun. He landed safely.
Yep- gotta pull before you roll.
UH

I watched a glider touch a wing tip to the ground in a low, low final
turn.Â* Pilot walked away, the glider is still in Fidel's shop.

On 6/28/2020 7:25 AM, Karl Striedieck wrote:
Thanks for the report Bruno. I'd bet my (so far unnoticed) "infractions" exceed yours by a factor of 10.

Also thanks for the countless hours and hassle you contribute to the sport.

One observation that may have a safety implication was noted at 6:15 on the video. The left tip was probably closer to the ground than I would like.

Hoping you find a buddy with nice two-seater to slip some surly bonds in the immediate future.

KS


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Dan, 5J

On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 9:25:43 AM UTC-4, Karl Striedieck wrote:
Thanks for the report Bruno. I'd bet my (so far unnoticed) "infractions" exceed yours by a factor of 10.

Also thanks for the countless hours and hassle you contribute to the sport.

One observation that may have a safety implication was noted at 6:15 on the video. The left tip was probably closer to the ground than I would like.

Hoping you find a buddy with nice two-seater to slip some surly bonds in the immediate future.

KS

Well only thing that I can say is too bad the FAA guy had nothing better to do than bust a good ole glider guy. I liked the pass, I have seen better, by none other than the late E9. Yes I saw Alfonso do a pass where the grass was blazing and then pull up into a loop as Bennie and I were watching and laughing as he pulled out of the loop and made a 180 to land. E9, we miss you! Bob

On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 4:02:10 PM UTC-6, Bob Youngblood wrote:
On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 9:25:43 AM UTC-4, Karl Striedieck wrote:
Thanks for the report Bruno. I'd bet my (so far unnoticed) "infractions" exceed yours by a factor of 10.

Also thanks for the countless hours and hassle you contribute to the sport.

One observation that may have a safety implication was noted at 6:15 on the video. The left tip was probably closer to the ground than I would like.

Hoping you find a buddy with nice two-seater to slip some surly bonds in the immediate future.

KS

Well only thing that I can say is too bad the FAA guy had nothing better to do than bust a good ole glider guy. I liked the pass, I have seen better, by none other than the late E9. Yes I saw Alfonso do a pass where the grass was blazing and then pull up into a loop as Bennie and I were watching and laughing as he pulled out of the loop and made a 180 to land. E9, we miss you! Bob

Have I missed something.... I notice on yesterday's OLC that he posted a flight on OLC in his 27. ?????? https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=7906941

Actually, his suspension is over, was given before the first of the year and occurred mostly during the virus shut-down time.

The sad part about this is that while the suspension ends after a few months the effect of it goes on forever in insurance applications ("Have you ever had any enforcement actions?"), in Glider club applications ("any incidents or suspensions?") etc. The FAA used to have a policy of expunging suspensions after a period of no further violations - but that policy ended a few years ago.

To restate what KS said, the only difference between us and Bruno is that Bruno got caught. I got caught too (low level flying in a J3 Cub within 500' of a Park Ranger I never saw). All you can do is learn from it and avoid putting yourself in a position where your flying can be criticized by the FAA. Arguing about special treatment for Boeing, for Harrison Ford, or others is pointless. We put our own shirt tail in the wringer. Bruno did a service to warn others.

ROY

[quote=Roy B.;t policy ended a few years ago.

To restate what KS said, the only difference between us and Bruno is that Bruno got caught. I got caught too (low level flying in a J3 Cub within 500' of a Park Ranger I never saw). s.

ROY[/QUOTE]

So motoring down a ridge is infraction if hikers are there ?????

So motoring down a ridge is infraction if hikers are there ?????


That is correct. read FAR 91.119 (c):

"Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.

Like I said, everyone who has ever been down a ridge with a "structure" or a "person" on it has violated this section. Most don't get caught . . . Some do.

ROY

At 01:05 29 June 2020, Roy B. wrote:


So motoring down a ridge is infraction if hikers are there ?????


That is correct. read FAR 91.119 (c):

"Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may
operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:


(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above
the
surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In
those
cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any
person,
vessel, vehicle, or structure.

Like I said, everyone who has ever been down a ridge with a
"structure" or
a "person" on it has violated this section. Most don't get caught . . .
Some do.

ROY

In the UK we have a get out clause

The Civil Aviation Authority permits, under SERA.3105 and
SERA.5005(f) a glider to fly below 150 metres (500 feet) above the
ground or water or closer than 150 metres (500 feet) to any
person, vessel, vehicle or structure if it is hill-soaring.

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/modalapplication.aspx?
catid=1&pagetype=65&appid=11&mode=detail&id=7417

Stephen