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Old January 15th 04, 04:56 AM
Jeff
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does it work pretty good?

karl wrote:

****now there is a good invention for some brainyack to invent.*****

We already do that on the Falcon 50EX

Karl


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Old January 15th 04, 04:02 PM
karl
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****does it work pretty good?*****
****now there is a good invention for some brainyack to invent.*****


We don't use it. Too expensive.

Also, we need to check our flight plans against the paper ones that get
faxed to us, and the Universal UNS-1 is very fast and friendly to load
flight plans. A complicated flight plan that would take 10 minutes to load
in my Garmin 430/ Cessna 185, takes just seconds to load in the UNS-1.

I got to take a CNX-80 home and use it in demo mode for a few weeks. Their
method of loading flight plans is very much better than the 430. And, there
is a provision to load a flight plan directly from your PDA to CNX-80 via
infrared. Very cool.

Karl


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Old January 16th 04, 03:33 AM
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Now you're talking!

"Jeff" wrote in message
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it would be easier if by using a data link that ATC could just punch a

button on
their computer and it would load into your flight plan into your GPS.

now there is a good invention for some brainyack to invent.

C J Campbell wrote:

"Wyatt Emmerich" wrote in message
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| My point being: It would be a heck of a lot easier for Garmin 530

users if
| ATC would dispense with the airway part of the clearance and just

route us
| base on waypoints.

It would be even easier if some genius would put the airways into the
database so you could program the GPS just the way the clearance was

given.



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Old January 15th 04, 01:15 PM
Ron Rosenfeld
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:18:44 -0800, "C J Campbell"
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It would be even easier if some genius would put the airways into the
database so you could program the GPS just the way the clearance was given.


It is in the CNX80


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old January 16th 04, 07:14 AM
C J Campbell
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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| On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:18:44 -0800, "C J Campbell"
| wrote:
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| It would be even easier if some genius would put the airways into the
| database so you could program the GPS just the way the clearance was
given.
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| It is in the CNX80

I am beginning to like this unit more and more. I obviously have not spent
enough time playing with it.


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Old January 16th 04, 03:01 PM
Ron Rosenfeld
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:14:05 -0800, "C J Campbell"
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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| On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:18:44 -0800, "C J Campbell"
| wrote:
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| It would be even easier if some genius would put the airways into the
| database so you could program the GPS just the way the clearance was
given.
|
| It is in the CNX80

I am beginning to like this unit more and more. I obviously have not spent
enough time playing with it.


Mine is being installed as we speak. I've been reviewing the computer
aided training disk that comes with it.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old January 16th 04, 03:15 PM
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:14:05 -0800, "C J Campbell"
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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| On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:18:44 -0800, "C J Campbell"
| wrote:
|
| It would be even easier if some genius would put the airways into the
| database so you could program the GPS just the way the clearance was
given.
|
| It is in the CNX80

I am beginning to like this unit more and more. I obviously have not

spent
enough time playing with it.


Mine is being installed as we speak. I've been reviewing the computer
aided training disk that comes with it.


And now, if civil service ATC co-operates, like they agreed, VDL will be for
everyone.


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Old January 17th 04, 01:34 AM
John R. Copeland
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message =
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:14:05 -0800, "C J Campbell"
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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| On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:18:44 -0800, "C J Campbell"
| wrote:
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| It would be even easier if some genius would put the airways into =

the
| database so you could program the GPS just the way the clearance =

was
given.
|
| It is in the CNX80

I am beginning to like this unit more and more. I obviously have not =

spent
enough time playing with it.

=20
Mine is being installed as we speak. I've been reviewing the computer
aided training disk that comes with it.
=20
=20
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)


A disappointment in the CNX80 is in navigating to a distant VOR.
No matter how far away, it displays the fixed inbound VOR radial,
but calls it "Bearing to Waypoint".
In truth, it becomes the bearing only when you are near the VOR.
All other types of waypoints always display the correct great-circle =
bearing.

The manual (pg.13) implies this VOR behavior exists only for OBS mode,
but it's the case in any mode whenever a VOR is the current waypoint.

I received a private communication to the effect that they will make the
manual agree with the CNX80's behavior instead of fixing the problem.

My work-around is to create a User Waypoint at the same Lat/Lon
as any distant VOR I want to navigate toward.
I regret needing to do that.

I was told this choice was forced upon GarminAT by outside influences.
It was not the choice of GarminAT engineering.

I really hope they will find some compromise which will allow VORs
to become useful as waypoints. Right now, they are not.
Perhaps it could help if more CNX80 users told GarminAT they'd like
to navigate toward distant VORs.
---JRC---

 




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