Garmin G1000 gets airways

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:13:55 -0400, Ron Rosenfeld
wrote:


On the flightplan I entered this morning. It listed

KBFM LOXLY V198.QUINCY KTLH

The fixes between LOXLY and QUINCY were not shown.


What is QUINCY? I can't locate it, and I thought all intersections were
five characters.

I can only presume it's QUNCY but QUNCY doesn't exist on V198. Perhaps
he meant QUILL but I would have suspected the routing would have been
KBFM LOXLY V198 SZW KTLH. The system should have entered waypoints
for BRATT PENSI INBRD BAKOS CEW CORKY DEFUN CHEWS MAI SNEAD QUILL and
SZW if that's what was entered with the "LD ARWY" function. Course, he
was doing it from the PFD instead of the MFD, so it would be
interesting to know what was depected on the map and in the MFD's FPL
screen. I've only just installed these on my G1000s and haven't had
any chance to play with them myself. I do know from doing that
though, when entered via MFD it shows a leg of the flight plan as
"AIRWAY entry exit" and depicts the various waypoints on the map.

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:40:46 -0400, Peter Clark
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:13:55 -0400, Ron Rosenfeld
wrote:


On the flightplan I entered this morning. It listed

KBFM LOXLY V198.QUINCY KTLH

The fixes between LOXLY and QUINCY were not shown.


What is QUINCY? I can't locate it, and I thought all intersections were
five characters.

I can only presume it's QUNCY but QUNCY doesn't exist on V198. Perhaps
he meant QUILL but I would have suspected the routing would have been
KBFM LOXLY V198 SZW KTLH. The system should have entered waypoints
for BRATT PENSI INBRD BAKOS CEW CORKY DEFUN CHEWS MAI SNEAD QUILL and
SZW if that's what was entered with the "LD ARWY" function. Course, he
was doing it from the PFD instead of the MFD, so it would be
interesting to know what was depected on the map and in the MFD's FPL
screen. I've only just installed these on my G1000s and haven't had
any chance to play with them myself. I do know from doing that
though, when entered via MFD it shows a leg of the flight plan as
"AIRWAY entry exit" and depicts the various waypoints on the map.

I see I posted to the wrong person. Hopefully Dan will see this and
clarify.

The CNX80 also populates all the fixes, as was pointed out by someone else.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

"AIRWAY entry exit" and depicts the various waypoints on the map.

I see I posted to the wrong person. Hopefully Dan will see this and
clarify.


QUILL, not QUINCY

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:


The CNX80 also populates all the fixes,

The G1000 shows all the ones that mark course changes on the active
flightplan.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 16:03:33 -0500, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:


The CNX80 also populates all the fixes,

The G1000 shows all the ones that mark course changes on the active
flightplan.

Strange. Does it let you direct-to an intermediate fix? I've really
gotta go fly.

"Peter Clark" wrote:


The G1000 shows all the ones that mark course changes on the active
flightplan.

Strange. Does it let you direct-to an intermediate fix? I've really
gotta go fly.

So do I. I haven't actually flown a trip on a flightplan with an airway in it
yet.

I'm sure you can "direct-to" any waypoint in the flightplan.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:59:32 -0500, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"Peter Clark" wrote:


The G1000 shows all the ones that mark course changes on the active
flightplan.

Strange. Does it let you direct-to an intermediate fix? I've really
gotta go fly.

So do I. I haven't actually flown a trip on a flightplan with an airway in it
yet.

I'm sure you can "direct-to" any waypoint in the flightplan.

Yea, I'm surprised it's not depicting the waypoints. Since this is
all derived from the Mustang updates, and when flying in the flight
levels "cross random fix somewhere on your flight plan at one zero
thousand" is pretty common, not having random fix available for the
VNAV page would be quite a nuisance. I wouldn't think they'd mess
around with the code that much to make the Mustang and single-engine
versions act differently in that respect.

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 16:03:33 -0500, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:


The CNX80 also populates all the fixes,

The G1000 shows all the ones that mark course changes on the active
flightplan.

OK, on the simulator for the CNX80/GNS480, I enter

Origin KBFM
Dest KTLH
Waypt LOXLY
Airway V198 -- QUILL

Since there is no airway from QUILL direct to KTLH, I then delete the
"discontinuity"

In the regular display, I see:

KBFM
LOXLY
V198
QUILL
KTLH

In the EXPANDED mode, I see:

KBFM
LOXLY
V198--QUILL
BRATT
PENSI
INBRD
BAKOS
CEW
CORKY
DEFUN
CHEWS
MAI
SNEAD
QUILL
KTLH
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote:

In the EXPANDED mode, I see:

I remember seeing something about "expand" something down in the menus
somewhere. If I get a chance tomorrow, I'll check it out.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

Peter Clark wrote:
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:59:32 -0500, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"Peter Clark" wrote:


The G1000 shows all the ones that mark course changes on the active
flightplan.

Strange. Does it let you direct-to an intermediate fix? I've really
gotta go fly.

So do I. I haven't actually flown a trip on a flightplan with an airway in it
yet.

I'm sure you can "direct-to" any waypoint in the flightplan.


Yea, I'm surprised it's not depicting the waypoints. Since this is
all derived from the Mustang updates, and when flying in the flight
levels "cross random fix somewhere on your flight plan at one zero
thousand" is pretty common, not having random fix available for the
VNAV page would be quite a nuisance. I wouldn't think they'd mess
around with the code that much to make the Mustang and single-engine
versions act differently in that respect.

If there is no STAR they will often give you a crossing fix on a Victor
airway, which isn't loaded in the Jet Route flight plan in any case.
So, the fix has to be entered manually at that point.