Health Regulations and the Sports License

mdginzo writes:

If you have a health condition that would normally bar you from being
cleared by an FAA doctor, but you do not mention it to the doctor, how
will he know? I know it is a Federal offense not to disclose - or I
am guessing it is, anyway. I am just wondering how the doc would ever
know if it isn't something obvious?

He probably wouldn't. Just because something is illegal doesn't make it
impossible.

On Sep 19, 6:45 pm, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in oglegroups.com...





On Sep 19, 5:03 pm, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
oglegroups.com...

Nope, if you want to solo an airplane I need to sign a student pilot
certificate in addition to the solo endorsement. Student pilots are
required to carry both in airplanes. I'm not sure what the rules are
for gliders.

Cite?

Vaughn

Sec. 61.87 Solo requirements for student pilots.^M
(n) Limitations on flight instructors authorizing solo flight. (1)
No^M
instructor may authorize a student pilot to perform a solo flight
unless that^M
instructor has--^M
...
(iv) Ensured that the student pilot's certificate has been endorsed by
an^M
instructor authorized to provide flight training for the specific make
and^M
model aircraft to be flown; and^M
(v) Endorsed the student pilot's logbook for the specific make and
model^M
aircraft to be flown, and that endorsement remains current for solo
flight^M
privileges, provided an authorized instructor updates the student's
logbook^M
every 90 days thereafter.^M

Notice it requires both the student pilot certificate to be signed and
the endorsement in the log.

OK, but in this case you are dealing with a "student", but not a holder of a
student pilot's license because your "student" is already an FAA rated pilot.
Your "student" has no need to obtain a student pilot's certificate because
he/she is already a licensed pilot who is simply seeking an additional rating.
Since your "student" is does not hold a Student Pilot certificate, 61.87 does
not apply.

In this situation the applicable FAR is 61.31(d)(3) and the applicable CFI
signoff from AC 61-65E is # 63.

"To Act As PIC In An Aircraft in Solo Operations when the pilot does not hold an
Appropriate Category/Class Rating: Section 61.31 (d)(3)".

"I certify that __________________________ has received training as required by
section 61.31 (d)(3) to serve as PIC in a (category and class of aircraft). I
have determined that he/she is prepared to serve as PIC in that (make and model
of aircraft). "
(Date, Name, Certificate #, Exp date)

You are correct with respect to a private pilot adding an additional
category to his certificate. I believe the endorsement is #62 though;
#63 is Retesting after the failure of a practical test.

-Robert

If you are with a cfi-You can fly any air plane .When you solo,you have
to fly a sport qualified airplane With student permit,logbook sign off.
Must cfi don't want to under stand what a sport pilot certificate or the
plane.Also they think that 20 hr.arn't enough.But thats up to the
CFI.The CFI can instruct in any thing he has qualified for, as ASEL etc.
Must say they don't have a plane.
Morgans wrote:
"LJ Blodgett" wrote in message


Robert M. Gary wrote:
Robert,Hi YOU are right,The FSDO wants to see a drivers license,plus a
form(taken off the internet)filled in and signed by a CFI.No air med.P.S.
Unless s/he has been refused already. LJ


I'm not quite sure what you are saying here, but am very interested.

Can you lay it out a little more clearly for us, from the beginning?

The FSDO wants to see a form signed by a CFI, saying that you are interested
in going for the sport pilot rating? If that is the case, then are you
flying a plane that meets all of the requirements of a light sport plane?

If not, and it does not meet the requirements of a LSP, can you solo in it,
and take you final check ride in it, if it is not a sport plane?

I am interested, because there are not many options around here for taking
LSP lessons, from the area FBO's. If there is a way around this problem, I
would really be interested in hearing about it.

Thanks.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

mdginzo writes:

If you have a health condition that would normally bar you from being
cleared by an FAA doctor, but you do not mention it to the doctor, how
will he know? I know it is a Federal offense not to disclose - or I
am guessing it is, anyway. I am just wondering how the doc would ever
know if it isn't something obvious?

He probably wouldn't. Just because something is illegal doesn't make it
impossible.


Doesn't matter. you will never fly legally or illegally



Bertie

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:47:01 -0600, LJ Blodgett
wrote:

If you are with a cfi-You can fly any air plane .When you solo,you have
to fly a sport qualified airplane...

And there's the rub; try to find a flight school with an airplane
meeting the LSA requirements. The usual Cessna or Piper offerings
won't qualify. Unless you can find somebody doing primary in an old
Cub, T-Craft, Aeronca, or such, you're out of luck... until the new
crop of LSA's (including the new C-162) become common.

-Dana
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