Health Regulations and the Sports License

If you have a health condition that would normally bar you from being
cleared by an FAA doctor, but you do not mention it to the doctor, how
will he know? I know it is a Federal offense not to disclose - or I
am guessing it is, anyway. I am just wondering how the doc would ever
know if it isn't something obvious?

Second question: can I take flight classes as if shooting for a
regular pilot's license and then when I am done with the training just
apply fo the Sport's License? Does the one qualify me for the other?
What is going on is that there is a perfectly good flight school in my
area, but they do not train specifically for the Sport's Pilot
License. It would seem to me that I could go to school for a regular
pilot's license and then just qualify for the Sport's License with
that training plus a driver license and skip the medical exam. Right?
Or am I missing something?

"mdginzo" wrote in message
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If you have a health condition that would normally bar you from being
cleared by an FAA doctor, but you do not mention it to the doctor, how
will he know? I know it is a Federal offense not to disclose - or I
am guessing it is, anyway. I am just wondering how the doc would ever
know if it isn't something obvious?

That is up to you and your own ethics to decide.

Second question: can I take flight classes as if shooting for a
regular pilot's license and then when I am done with the training just
apply fo the Sport's License? Does the one qualify me for the other?

In order to solo, for your full private pilot ticket, you will already have
to get your medical passed. If you get that, then there is nothing to stop
you from getting the full ticket.

What is going on is that there is a perfectly good flight school in my
area, but they do not train specifically for the Sport's Pilot
License. It would seem to me that I could go to school for a regular
pilot's license and then just qualify for the Sport's License with
that training plus a driver license and skip the medical exam. Right?

Nope, as stated above by me.

You would have to be instructed on the sport pilot path to avoid the
medical.

Another possible path is a school that teaches in motor gliders, and get a
glider ticket. They may be harder to find than LS schools, but you might
get lucky. You could go that way, with no medical. You would also be
limited to gliders, but they have no restrictions with weight, speed or
flying at night, to name a few of the unrestricted features vs. LSP.

You could take instruction on a non sport plane, but the plane you solo
with, and take your test in, will have to be a light sport plane to avoid
the FAA medical.

Go out and get a overweight 2 seat ultralight, used, that has been converted
to a light sport plane by the paperwork conversion, and get their
instructors to get up to speed with Light Sport Pilot instructing. They can
be had for a few thousand dollars, usually.

Afterwards, you can keep the plane, or sell it to someone else, like the
school, or someone else that needs to do like what you need. You might even
come out a few bucks ahead, if you play it right.

If anyone sees any error in what I have suggested, by all means, please
point it out. This is the way it is, as I understand it.
--
Jim in NC

Well for one thing, your medical is your student pilot license.


"mdginzo" wrote in message
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What is going on is that there is a perfectly good flight school in my
area, but they do not train specifically for the Sport's Pilot
License. It would seem to me that I could go to school for a regular
pilot's license and then just qualify for the Sport's License with
that training plus a driver license and skip the medical exam. Right?
Or am I missing something?

The CFI's are missing the boat.Go to your local faa(with a signoff)for a
student licence.Train in any plane,and know what sport pilot reg's are
and teach it to your CFI.He can sign for solo & etc.,under the spot
rules. If Im wrong,ForgetIt. LJ from riches to rags.

mdginzo wrote:
If you have a health condition that would normally bar you from being
cleared by an FAA doctor, but you do not mention it to the doctor, how
will he know? I know it is a Federal offense not to disclose - or I
am guessing it is, anyway. I am just wondering how the doc would everThe

Second question: can I take flight classes as if shooting for a
regular pilot's license and then when I am done with the training just
apply fo the Sport's License? Does the one qualify me for the other?
What is going on is that there is a perfectly good flight school in my
area, but they do not train specifically for the Sport's Pilot
License. It would seem to me that I could go to school for a regular
pilot's license and then just qualify for the Sport's License with
that training plus a driver license and skip the medical exam. Right?
Or am I missing something?

On Sep 19, 11:05 am, LJ Blodgett wrote:
The CFI's are missing the boat.Go to your local faa(with a signoff)for a
student licence.Train in any plane,and know what sport pilot reg's are
and teach it to your CFI.He can sign for solo & etc.,under the spot
rules. If Im wrong,ForgetIt. LJ from riches to rags.

I'm not following you. In order to solo as a student pilot you have to
have a 3rd class medical unless you are a sport pilot applicant.
Usually the only time you send students to the FSDO to get a student
pilot certificate are
1) If they are already rated in another type of aircraft (Helo for
instance) and carry a "regular" FAA medical or
2) They are under 40 and their medical is still valid but their studen
tpilot certificate is expired.

-Robert, CFII

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Robert,Hi YOU are right,The FSDO wants to see a drivers license,plus
a form(taken off the internet)filled in and signed by a CFI.No air
med.P.S. Unless s/he has been refused already. LJ

The CFI's are missing the boat.Go to your local faa(with a signoff)for a
student licence.Train in any plane,and know what sport pilot reg's are
and teach it to your CFI.He can sign for solo & etc.,under the spot
rules. If Im wrong,ForgetIt. LJ from riches to rags.


I'm not following you. In order to solo as a student pilot you have to
have a 3rd class medical unless you are a sport pilot applicant.
Usually the only time you send students to the FSDO to get a student
pilot certificate are
1) If they are already rated in another type of aircraft (Helo for
instance) and carry a "regular" FAA medical or
2) They are under 40 and their medical is still valid but their studen
tpilot certificate is expired.

-Robert, CFII

"LJ Blodgett" wrote in message
. ..
YOU are right,The FSDO wants to see a drivers license,plus
a form(taken off the internet)filled in and signed by a CFI.

You may not actually need a FSDO. I got my first student license from a
designee. Since I was a glider student, no medical was necessary.

Vaughn

On Sep 19, 2:27 pm, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote:
"LJ Blodgett" wrote in message

. ..
YOU are right,The FSDO wants to see a drivers license,plus

a form(taken off the internet)filled in and signed by a CFI.

You may not actually need a FSDO. I got my first student license from a
designee. Since I was a glider student, no medical was necessary.

Vaughn

Yes. In fact I recently had a student who's student pilot certificate
had expired (24 months) but the medical was still good (36 months). I
just asked the DE to sign the 8710 for the certificate "Student PIlot"
and he issued him a student pilot certificate w/o me going to the
FSDO.

-Robert

"LJ Blodgett" wrote in message

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Robert,Hi YOU are right,The FSDO wants to see a drivers license,plus a
form(taken off the internet)filled in and signed by a CFI.No air med.P.S.
Unless s/he has been refused already. LJ

I'm not quite sure what you are saying here, but am very interested.

Can you lay it out a little more clearly for us, from the beginning?

The FSDO wants to see a form signed by a CFI, saying that you are interested
in going for the sport pilot rating? If that is the case, then are you
flying a plane that meets all of the requirements of a light sport plane?

If not, and it does not meet the requirements of a LSP, can you solo in it,
and take you final check ride in it, if it is not a sport plane?

I am interested, because there are not many options around here for taking
LSP lessons, from the area FBO's. If there is a way around this problem, I
would really be interested in hearing about it.

Thanks.
--
Jim in NC

If you are with a cfi-You can fly any air plane .When you solo,you have
to fly a sport qualified airplane With student permit,logbook sign off.
Must cfi don't want to under stand what a sport pilot certificate or the
plane.Also they think that 20 hr.arn't enough.But thats up to the
CFI.The CFI can instruct in any thing he has qualified for, as ASEL etc.
Must say they don't have a plane.
Morgans wrote:
"LJ Blodgett" wrote in message


Robert M. Gary wrote:
Robert,Hi YOU are right,The FSDO wants to see a drivers license,plus a
form(taken off the internet)filled in and signed by a CFI.No air med.P.S.
Unless s/he has been refused already. LJ


I'm not quite sure what you are saying here, but am very interested.

Can you lay it out a little more clearly for us, from the beginning?

The FSDO wants to see a form signed by a CFI, saying that you are interested
in going for the sport pilot rating? If that is the case, then are you
flying a plane that meets all of the requirements of a light sport plane?

If not, and it does not meet the requirements of a LSP, can you solo in it,
and take you final check ride in it, if it is not a sport plane?

I am interested, because there are not many options around here for taking
LSP lessons, from the area FBO's. If there is a way around this problem, I
would really be interested in hearing about it.

Thanks.