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Age 60 Rule is now Age 65 Rule



 
 
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  #21  
Old December 15th 07, 05:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
F. Baum
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Default Age 60 Rule is now Age 65 Rule

On Dec 14, 11:07 am, Mxsmanic wrote:

But doesn't this mean that he'll ultimately fly longer? He may not be
thrilled over the short term, but it means five extra years at the peak of his
career.

MX, I usually dont respond to your posts, but I am thinking there may
be others with the same question. You have to consider that most
pilots dont WANT to fly longer. In the states, people typically retire
at 65. How would you like to be told that you will have to work an
extra 5 years to get your benifits ? The typical DB and DC plans are
geared toward a full career and a pilot takes a hit if he retires
early.Typically 2.5 to 5% per year. Most of us would rather make
captains pay 5 years earlier so the money in our DC plans and 401Ks
has that much longer to grow, not to mention the B funds (for those
who still have them).
The job is not as easy as it looks, a pilot is away from home more and
more, it gets harder to recover from jetlag, there is alot of industry
volitility, etc. I am in my mid 40s and I cringe at the thought of
doing this job in my mid 60s. Most of us would rather hit that peak 5
years earlier .
  #22  
Old December 15th 07, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Age 60 Rule is now Age 65 Rule

F. Baum writes:

MX, I usually dont respond to your posts, but I am thinking there may
be others with the same question. You have to consider that most
pilots dont WANT to fly longer.


I thought people become airline pilots because they love to fly.

In the states, people typically retire
at 65. How would you like to be told that you will have to work an
extra 5 years to get your benifits?


Depends on whether or not I'm getting the same deal as everyone else. If it's
65 for everyone else, and mine is raised from 60 to 65 as well, I can't really
complain.

The job is not as easy as it looks, a pilot is away from home more and
more, it gets harder to recover from jetlag, there is alot of industry
volitility, etc. I am in my mid 40s and I cringe at the thought of
doing this job in my mid 60s. Most of us would rather hit that peak 5
years earlier.


But as you say, people typically retire at 65, so why should pilots get to
retire five years earlier?
  #23  
Old December 15th 07, 07:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

F. Baum writes:

MX, I usually dont respond to your posts, but I am thinking there may
be others with the same question. You have to consider that most
pilots dont WANT to fly longer.


I thought people become airline pilots because they love to fly.



No you didn't


Bertie
  #24  
Old December 15th 07, 11:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
george
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On Dec 16, 8:30 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote :

F. Baum writes:


MX, I usually dont respond to your posts, but I am thinking there may
be others with the same question. You have to consider that most
pilots dont WANT to fly longer.


I thought people become airline pilots because they love to fly.


No you didn't

Mixed up claiming he thinks eh....
bad choice of words

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Old December 15th 07, 11:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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george wrote in
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On Dec 16, 8:30 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote
:

F. Baum writes:


MX, I usually dont respond to your posts, but I am thinking there
may be others with the same question. You have to consider that
most pilots dont WANT to fly longer.


I thought people become airline pilots because they love to fly.


No you didn't

Mixed up claiming he thinks eh....
bad choice of words



If he only made yes /no posts he'd still have less than a 10% chance of
being right.

Bertie
  #26  
Old December 17th 07, 01:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kingfish
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On Dec 15, 2:02 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:


I thought people become airline pilots because they love to fly.


Most do, although if you do anything long enough you'll get tired of
it eventually. Like reading your moronic responses.


The job is not as easy as it looks, a pilot is away from home more and
more, it gets harder to recover from jetlag, there is alot of industry
volitility, etc. I am in my mid 40s and I cringe at the thought of
doing this job in my mid 60s. Most of us would rather hit that peak 5
years earlier.


But as you say, people typically retire at 65, so why should pilots get to
retire five years earlier?


Until last week, pilots didn't "get" to retire five years earlier -
they had no choice. Have you read through this thread at all?

Dope.

  #27  
Old December 17th 07, 01:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kingfish
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On Dec 15, 12:03 pm, "F. Baum" wrote:

Best of luck with the career goals. Stay far away from charter if you
can help it.
FB


Thanks. Not real big on charter jobs, huh? I figgered I'd do it for a
few years then try to get a fractional gig.

  #28  
Old December 17th 07, 01:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Kingfish" wrote in message
...

Most do, although if you do anything long enough you'll get tired of
it eventually. Like reading your moronic responses.


Why do you read his responses?


  #29  
Old December 17th 07, 02:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig601XLBuilder
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F. Baum wrote:

The reason why SWA, Jetblue, Airtran, etc, wanted a change to the rule
is because they do not offer their pilots any kind of benifits
package.


Really, none at all?

http://www.southwest.com/careers/benefits.html
  #30  
Old December 17th 07, 02:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kingfish
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On Dec 17, 8:59 am, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


Most do, although if you do anything long enough you'll get tired of
it eventually. Like reading your moronic responses.


Why do you read his responses?


'Cause I can't figure out how to block them with my reader? I usually
just ignore him, but find meself feeling rather grouchy this morning
and got sucked into the MX vortex of stupidity...
 




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