radiocomm question

On Mar 11, 2:03*pm, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
This information, taken from the Air Traffic Control Handbook, may be
useful:

Again, since it sounds like we're talking about a local procedure
you'd have to get a copy of that.

-Robert

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:31:50 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote in
:

On Mar 11, 2:03*pm, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
This information, taken from the Air Traffic Control Handbook, may be
useful:

Again, since it sounds like we're talking about a local procedure
you'd have to get a copy of that.

-Robert


That would be useful information. Has anyone bothered to consult the
references in this note:

NOTE-
Exceptions may be authorized only as provided in para 1-1-10,
Constraints Governing Supplements and Procedural Deviations, and
FAAO 7210.3, Facility Operation and Administration, Use of Active
Runways, para 10-1-7, where justified by extraordinary
circumstances at specific locations.

I did, and found nothing on point except dealing with crossing the active
runway. In the OPs case, they were not crossing the active.

Bob Gardner

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:31:50 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote in
:

On Mar 11, 2:03 pm, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
This information, taken from the Air Traffic Control Handbook, may be
useful:

Again, since it sounds like we're talking about a local procedure
you'd have to get a copy of that.

-Robert


That would be useful information. Has anyone bothered to consult the
references in this note:

NOTE-
Exceptions may be authorized only as provided in para 1-1-10,
Constraints Governing Supplements and Procedural Deviations, and
FAAO 7210.3, Facility Operation and Administration, Use of Active
Runways, para 10-1-7, where justified by extraordinary
circumstances at specific locations.

On Mar 11, 3:25*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

True the instructor was wrong. I would be wrong too, in fact next time
I'm at ABQ I'll be wrong again because I'll continue to follow the
procedure requested by ATC despite that fact that its wrong. So we
agree, he was wrong, I'm wrong, and he and I will continue to be
wrong.


The procedure is to remain with ground control until ready to request
takeoff clearance unless told otherwise. If ground control instructs
you
to contact tower at an earlier time then it's fine.

On Mar 11, 5:31*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Again, since it sounds like we're talking about a local procedure
you'd have to get a copy of that.


There are no local procedures at RDU or ABQ that deviate from the
national standards in this area.

"Dan Luke" wrote in message


Didn't say it was, but I bet it's more relaxed than a busy Bravo like
Houston Hobby, for example.

They don't care much for home-made radio procedure at HOU.



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Bob Gardner wrote:
I did, and found nothing on point except dealing with crossing the active
runway. In the OPs case, they were not crossing the active.

They weren't crossing the runway they were going to depart on, but they
were certainly crossing an active runway. Runway 14 is never used for
landing (somebody told me it would scare the guys in the tower to have
planes get that close to them.) Small planes are often sent to land on
32 as to avoid interfering with commercial traffic on the longer parallel
runways. I remember the first time I was sent to take off on 14. I was
like, "One Four? What the heck is One Four?" You'd also never be sent
to depart from 32.


Bob Gardner

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:31:50 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote in
:

On Mar 11, 2:03 pm, "Bob Gardner" wrote:
This information, taken from the Air Traffic Control Handbook, may be
useful:

Again, since it sounds like we're talking about a local procedure
you'd have to get a copy of that.

-Robert


That would be useful information. Has anyone bothered to consult the
references in this note:

NOTE-
Exceptions may be authorized only as provided in para 1-1-10,
Constraints Governing Supplements and Procedural Deviations, and
FAAO 7210.3, Facility Operation and Administration, Use of Active
Runways, para 10-1-7, where justified by extraordinary
circumstances at specific locations.


--
Don Poitras

FAA Order 7210.3 can be accessed from the FAA.gov home page by clicking on
Airports and Air Traffic, and then on Orders.

Bob Gardner

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 12:21 pm, TakeFlight wrote:
Had a dual flight the other day at RDU (runway diagram link at bottom
for reference). We requested runway 14 for departure, and ground told
us "taxi to runway 14 via Juliet, Charlie, hold short of 23L" (we were
departing from the general aviation ramp).

Yes, this really depends on the airport and is very common when two
runway's approach section are right on top of each other. I've seen
the same thing at Albuquerque international. When I asked ground to
cross the "hold short" runway they thought I was an idiot and told me
to ask tower. In anycase, your CFI probably had this inside
information to avoid ground from thinking you're crazy. As pilots we
learn the general rules for airports all over the place but some
controller who's only worked ground at one airport probably thinks its
normal and us "out-of-town" pilots are odd.

-Robert, CFII

In article ,
Bob F. wrote:

You stay with ground until you get to the destination that you were told.

I think this is exactly correct.

But it's possible that there was a local procedure that the instructor
was aware of.

--
-Ed Falk,
http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

"Edward A. Falk" wrote in message
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I think this is exactly correct.

But it's possible that there was a local procedure that the instructor
was aware of.


I checked, there are none.