This is why you should never trust your fuel gages

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On Dec 9, 1:07 am, Sam Spade wrote:

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A dictionary will help:

From Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry:
gauge
Variant(s):
also gage \ˈg�j\
Function:
noun

2: an instrument for or a means of measuring or testing:

Furthermo Many Cessna Information Manuals also use this spelling.
You can too.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gage


Dude! Give it up:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gauge%5B1%5D

Also, have you ever flown a Cessna? Open the POH for crying out loud.

So what. All that proves is Cessna can't spell. Last time I checked
they weren't the Cessna Dictionary Company.

I've flown a lot of other aircraft than Cessnas and all the others have
gauges.

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On Dec 9, 1:07 am, Sam Spade wrote:

wrote:


A dictionary will help:

From Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry:
gauge
Variant(s):
also gage \ˈg�j\
Function:
noun

2: an instrument for or a means of measuring or testing:

Furthermo Many Cessna Information Manuals also use this spelling.
You can too.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gage


Dude! Give it up:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gauge%5B1%5D

Also, have you ever flown a Cessna? Open the POH for crying out loud.

So what. All that proves is Cessna can't spell. Last time I checked they
weren't the Cessna Dictionary Company.

I've flown a lot of other aircraft than Cessnas and all the others have
gauges.

"Gage" was used more predominately in the US in days past. It's probably
safe to assume a lot of older US manufactured aircraft prior to WWII used
the word "gage" in favor of "gauge".

At any rate both are correct so why you persist on saying otherwise is
anyone's guess. Grammar flames are pretty lame to begin with and harping on
a fallacious grammar flame has to be even more so.

On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:36:47 GMT, Mike wrote:

And if you're

STFU
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:36:47 GMT, Mike wrote:

And if you're

STFU

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:32:51 GMT, Mike wrote:

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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 18:36:47 GMT, Mike wrote:

And if you're

STFU

Call me.

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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:13:28 GMT, Mike wrote:

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http://ronsvideos.fliggo.com/video/uIgc0dP9

This video was shot in a Cessna 206 taking us to a game reserve in
South
Africa. Watch the fuel gage in the upper right corner.

This is typical for a Cessna and a few others where the fuel gauge uses
the same technology as a toilet tank float.

A fuel totalizer is a very nice thing to have.

Float-type sending units are, in fact, simpler than toilet tank float
valves, and more reliable. They work reliably for decades. However,
many have been in service nearly forty years. Eventually the resistance
winding will develop spots where the wiper doesn't make good contact,
and the gauge (U.S.) or gage (Brit.) will fluctuate wildly for a few
minutes, until fuel is burned off and the wiper moves to a new location,
then the gauge works normally again. Simple and relatively simple to
fix.

If what you say is true, why do quite a few relatively new planes exhibit
the same symptoms?


Do you believe fuel totalizers are more reliable? Or capacitance
systems? Do you trust totalizers totally?

I've flown lots of planes with totalizers and never seen a failure. I've
also seen lots of failures and gross errors in float type systems (new
and old), so in my experience, yes they are more reliable.

As far as your last question it appears to be argumentative. I could
just as easily ask you if you trust the standard Cessna fuel gauge
totally, but neither really deserves an answer.
I doubt my experiences are typical. Most of the fuel quantity and
totalizer systems I saw over thirty years weren't operating correctly, and
I was being paid to repair them. Age makes most indicating systems
untrustworthy. Having multiple systems is good, if they aren't
interdependent.

Agreed, and the best way to check them is simply to stick the tanks both
before and after a flight.

Even float rods on Piper Cubs and others hang occasional, or the floats
saturate and sink. Direct-reading sight tubes are probably the most
reliable indicators, but even those can become difficult to read with age.

I don't trust any fuel indication system.

There is one fuel indication system that's reasonably accurate, and that is
the prop which quits turning when you run out. Where many people get into
trouble is they DON'T trust their fuel indication system until the
aforementioned one indicates zero. I use mine to cross check my flight
planning, and if they don't agree it's time to do something different.

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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:13:28 GMT, Mike wrote:

"Dale Scroggins" wrote in message
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"Mike" nospam @ aol.com wrote in message
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http://ronsvideos.fliggo.com/video/uIgc0dP9

This video was shot in a Cessna 206 taking us to a game reserve in
South
Africa. Watch the fuel gage in the upper right corner.

This is typical for a Cessna and a few others where the fuel gauge
uses
the same technology as a toilet tank float.

A fuel totalizer is a very nice thing to have.

Float-type sending units are, in fact, simpler than toilet tank float
valves, and more reliable. They work reliably for decades. However,
many have been in service nearly forty years. Eventually the
resistance
winding will develop spots where the wiper doesn't make good contact,
and the gauge (U.S.) or gage (Brit.) will fluctuate wildly for a few
minutes, until fuel is burned off and the wiper moves to a new
location,
then the gauge works normally again. Simple and relatively simple to
fix.

If what you say is true, why do quite a few relatively new planes
exhibit
the same symptoms?


Do you believe fuel totalizers are more reliable? Or capacitance
systems? Do you trust totalizers totally?

I've flown lots of planes with totalizers and never seen a failure.
I've
also seen lots of failures and gross errors in float type systems (new
and old), so in my experience, yes they are more reliable.

As far as your last question it appears to be argumentative. I could
just as easily ask you if you trust the standard Cessna fuel gauge
totally, but neither really deserves an answer.
I doubt my experiences are typical. Most of the fuel quantity and
totalizer systems I saw over thirty years weren't operating correctly,
and
I was being paid to repair them. Age makes most indicating systems
untrustworthy. Having multiple systems is good, if they aren't
interdependent.

Agreed, and the best way to check them is simply to stick the tanks both
before and after a flight.

Even float rods on Piper Cubs and others hang occasional, or the floats
saturate and sink. Direct-reading sight tubes are probably the most
reliable indicators, but even those can become difficult to read with
age.

I don't trust any fuel indication system.

There is one fuel indication system that's reasonably accurate, and that
is
the prop which quits turning when you run out. Where many people get
into
trouble is they DON'T trust their fuel indication system until the
aforementioned one indicates zero. I use mine to cross check my flight
planning, and if they don't agree it's time to do something different.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1..._re_a_homo.jpg
Bear Bottoms
Private Attorney General

Your puberty hasn't even hit its stride yet and you're already so sure,
Kookie?

I'm sure your mommie has known for some time.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:41:30 GMT, Mike wrote:

"Gag" was used when I swallow spermies.

Excellent to know
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"Gag" was used when I swallow spermies.

Excellent to know

Not really, but I suspected as much anyway.