USAF considers new anti-ship weapon.

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in news:ONOdnTkqa-NV5rDeRVn-
:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-84.html

I agree the site looks good, except the surface launching
system SWG-1 was replaced by the SWG-1A. I also didn't
see (but might have missed) the HACLS system for the
B-52G/H.

scott s.
..

"scott s." wrote

I agree the site looks good, except the surface launching
system SWG-1 was replaced by the SWG-1A. I also didn't
see (but might have missed) the HACLS system for the
B-52G/H.

scott s.


Perhaps this is the answer to the original posters question. Maybe the new
anti-ship weapon is intended to replace the Harpoon on the B-52G/H. Maybe
they will want one that can be carried by a B-2.

JD

Joe Delphi wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Harpoon has been around for awhile now, though newer versions are an
improvement
over the original. Can Harpoon still hack it against modern air
defenses?



Yes, Harpoon has been in the Fleet since at least the late 1980s, but it is
still a formidable weapon. Not sure what a "JASSAM-variant" would offer
that would be significantly better than Harpoon.

What do you mean by "modern air defenses". Are you talking about the
automatic close in weapon systems that shoot out 1 zillion depleted uranium
rounds per second? Not sure who has those systems other than the United
States or how Harpoon or JASSAM would perform against that type of defense.


JD


If you are referring to Phalanx like CIWS (sans DU) then lots of navies
have them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIWS

rb

The project/program manager for DoD cruise missile is AF. This includes the
surface and submarine launch TMHK.

wrote in message
oups.com...
The USAF is considering building a new weapon to go after heavily-
defended ships. See:

http://aviationnow.ecnext.com/free-s...icle=DEMO09135

Shouldn't the Navy be taking the lead on a project like this?

niceguy wrote:
The project/program manager for DoD cruise missile is AF. This
includes the surface and submarine launch TMHK.

Not so. PMA-280, the Tomahawk Weapon System Program Office has
"cradle-to-grave" responsibility for Tomahawk. PMA-280 is a NAVIR shop
under PEO (W). The Air Force has no role in Tomahawk management now that
the ground-launched version is gone.

However, as I said before, the Air Force *is* the lead on all versions of
JASSM (just as the Navy is lead on all versions of JSOW).

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Peter Skelton wrote:

Surface to air technology has improved to the point where a
Harpoon launcher can be at excessive risk. ISTM that the USAF
wants to stand back a bit farther.

Peter Skelton

Not many BUFF's around and even fewer of them with the ability to launch
Harpoon. With AMI all BUFF's can launch JASSM and it has a longer range
with a much larger warhead and some LO. Solve the moving target update
part and you have a pretty effective anti-ship weapon.

Michael Kelly
BUFF Flight Test Engineer

Joe Delphi wrote:

Perhaps this is the answer to the original posters question. Maybe the new
anti-ship weapon is intended to replace the Harpoon on the B-52G/H. Maybe
they will want one that can be carried by a B-2.

JD

Or the B-1 as they are the perferred JASSM and JASSM-ER bomber.

Michael Kelly
BUFF Flight Test Engineer, Former Bone Maintainer

Mark Test wrote:

We're all one big "joint" family now. The AF finally has to learn how to
attack
ships. :-) Wonder if they'll have to learn to land on a carrier too?

Careful there, the BUFF pilot I sit next to at work is an USNTPS grad
with numerous traps in Tomcats and Hornets. He didn't think they were
all that hard, but that could have just been bravado...

Michael Kelly
BUFF Flight Test Engineer

Thomas Schoene wrote:

Yes. JASSM was zero-funded in the Navy's FY 06 budget request, and I don't
think anyone put it back in the markup.

Could be pay back for JSOW...

Michael Kelly
BUFF Flight Test Engineer

Harry Andreas wrote:

I detect the distinctive smell of marketing-types ghost writing that article.
While JASSM is a joint AF-Navy project, I was under the impression that
the Navy was considering pulling out of JASSM in favor of SLAM-ER, which
itself is a derivative of Harpoon.

Just as likely that there's a little bad blood after the Air Force
changed its preference to WCMD-ER over JSOW, same range, lower cost and
much more bang for the buck. Did I mention it just straps onto a dumb
cluster bomb shape. Of course JASSM lately has had a few QC problems
and that could explain the Navy's preference for SLAM-ER.

Michael Kelly
BUFF Flight Tester