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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:11:56 -0600, William Hughes
wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:55:33 -0500, in rec.aviation.military.naval Penta wrote: Thoughts, all? How WOULD one work on unit pride/unit identification/unit cohesion in the modern environment? Not real well. Too much turnover in personnel. Way back when it was possible to stay with the same ship or unit for several years. Nowadays, I think the average time on station is two years. All, William Hughes's reply brought a number of thoughts to mind, from the inane to the complex. Eventually, however, I settled on something. As an exercise for the group, let me lay out multiple scenarios. 1. The US Navy, or a fictional copy thereof, is (on a whim, basically) scrapping everything. RAMN contributors have been directed to produce a replacement. Cover all issues, from uniforms to living conditions to regulations, including every aspect of personnel policies and general "cultural" stuff, as well as force structure and equipment buys. However, limits a Pay changes must keep in mind Congress. Cultural stuff: Do keep in mind the general society. 2. The navy of a major NATO ally or an important regional country* is doing the same thing. Describe the projected local security situation, also, and keep it in mind. In this case, nothing is off-limits. 3. A small country is looking at the same thing. Examples: Panama, Philippines. No limits, just describe and remember the projected security situation *Definition: flippable. Basically, say who you're using, then run with it. Thoughts: 1. To organize this and allow for filters, let's try to agree on a common subject header? [RAMNEX 1: topic, RAMNEX 2: topic, and so forth?] 2. Sources are, as always, a good idea. 3. Does anybody have free, non-ad-filled webspace we could compile and host this on? It'd be a cool thing to keep around, but I dunno how to get access to my school's webserver. John |
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In article , Mike Kanze
wrote: According to my Dad, part of this was due to the circumstances of the Depression. For many, the armed forces were - literally - a better alternative to whatever was available at home. So there was a stronger motivation to treat one's unit as a real "home" and not just as a waypoint. And thus easier to get folks interested in "community" stuff like softball leagues. Mikes Good sense snipped. If you look at the make-up of the service it has also changed. Certainly among the enlisted and the JO's many more are married now than were in the 1920's through the 40's and most live off base. In the past base housing was much more prevelent for those that were married and most of the single folks lived in either in the barracks or the Q and not many of the lower grade E's (or o's) had cars so all were much more dependent on Navy sponsored activities. Even at in the modern era I found my squadrons at NUW the squadron was much tighter than in VAQ-209 where every lives spread all over the DC metro area and basically gets together for manditory fun and that's about it. Pugs "If they can put a man on the moon why can't they put a man on Lifetime TV?" Colin Quinn |
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From TF-38 days
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