Aircraft Carrier naming

Anybody else bothered by the naming of US aircraft carriers after
people who were still living at the time? I'm sure that Carl Vinson
(CVN-70) & John C. Stennis (CVN-74) did good thing but to have a
carrier named after them? I wish the US Navy would go back to naming
carriers after famous battles & ships. Would it not be great to have
in the fleet carriers again named USS Hornet, Lexington, Saratoga,
Oriskany. It would honor the sailors that served on these great ships.

absolutely concur, although Reagan, with his rewarded efforts to end the
40-year Cold War, I think an exception could be made. We could do with a USS
England ("they'll always be a USS England" - only warship to locate and sink
six enemy submarines!). Just glad they had a USS (The) Sullivans. Is it still
in commission..?

I've always been bothered by this trend, even if the namesake has been dead
for a while.

Unfortunately I suspect this was / still is a necessary "evil" for the Navy
to get the force it needs. Especially concerning those ships named for
congressional bigwigs.

And I know exactly which ship type I'd like named for SEN Clinton.
(Actually, a whole class of ships honoring the likes of Hilary Clinton, Pat
Schroeder, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi . . . and of course Monica Lewinski.)
g

--
Mike Kanze

"If it's good enough to get shot at in, it's good enough to wear to
McDonalds."

- CDR Doug "Woody" Beal, USN (Referring to the wearing of military uniform
clothing, like flight suits, off-base.)


"Bob" wrote in message
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Anybody else bothered by the naming of US aircraft carriers after
people who were still living at the time? I'm sure that Carl Vinson
(CVN-70) & John C. Stennis (CVN-74) did good thing but to have a
carrier named after them? I wish the US Navy would go back to naming
carriers after famous battles & ships. Would it not be great to have
in the fleet carriers again named USS Hornet, Lexington, Saratoga,
Oriskany. It would honor the sailors that served on these great ships.

Mike Kanze wrote:

I've always been bothered by this trend, even if the namesake has been dead
for a while.

Unfortunately I suspect this was / still is a necessary "evil" for the Navy
to get the force it needs. Especially concerning those ships named for
congressional bigwigs.

And I know exactly which ship type I'd like named for SEN Clinton.
(Actually, a whole class of ships honoring the likes of Hilary Clinton, Pat
Schroeder, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi . . . and of course Monica Lewinski.)
g


Either tramp steamers or ships that go down.

George

Bob wrote in message
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Anybody else bothered by the naming of US aircraft carriers after
people who were still living at the time?

Yes. The risk is that the person will do something to disgrace their name
and then the name of the ship. If the person is deceased, then that risk
goes down considerably.

I remember a situation in the midwest where a University (which had no
building naming policy) named a building after a beloved football coach that
was still alive and still coaching and not all that old either. Later
someone filed a complaint against the coach for something and there was an
investigation which revealed all types of wrongdoing - financial,
recruiting, and otherwise. After that, the University changed the name of
the building which caused an even bigger scandal because then the coach and
the family felt that they were wronged...etc..etc. Changing the name of
the building cost the University quite a bit of money too. You can rest
assured that after that incident, the University came up with a building
naming policy that included, among other things, that the person had to be
deceased for five years before their name could be submitted for a building.
Its not foolproof, but I guess they decided that if something bad was going
to show up, it would show up within five years of the person's death.

And in answer to another poster's question, I believe that the USS (The)
Sullivans is still a commissioned ship.


JD

"Joe Delphi" wrote in message
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And in answer to another poster's question, I believe that the USS (The)
Sullivans is still a commissioned ship.

From: http://www.buffalonavalpark.org/sullivan.htm
USS THE SULLIVANS ( DD-537 )
Fletcher Class Destroyer
Launched April 4, 1943 at Bethlehem Steel Corporation, San Francisco CA.
Commissioned September 30, 1943
Decommissioned 1965

Vaughn




JD

"Vaughn" wrote in message
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"Joe Delphi" wrote in message
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And in answer to another poster's question, I believe that the USS (The)
Sullivans is still a commissioned ship.

From: http://www.buffalonavalpark.org/sullivan.htm
USS THE SULLIVANS ( DD-537 )
Fletcher Class Destroyer
Launched April 4, 1943 at Bethlehem Steel Corporation, San Francisco CA.
Commissioned September 30, 1943
Decommissioned 1965

Hmm, you learn something new every day. I didn't realize there was a
previous ship bearing that name.

http://www.sullivans.navy.mil/

(DDG-67)

There are two USS Sullivans - the first one, referred to below, was used in
WW2 and Korea, the second ship DDG-668 was the one to which I was referring.

JD


Vaughn wrote in message
...

"Joe Delphi" wrote in message
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And in answer to another poster's question, I believe that the USS (The)
Sullivans is still a commissioned ship.

From: http://www.buffalonavalpark.org/sullivan.htm
USS THE SULLIVANS ( DD-537 )
Fletcher Class Destroyer
Launched April 4, 1943 at Bethlehem Steel Corporation, San Francisco CA.
Commissioned September 30, 1943
Decommissioned 1965

Vaughn




JD

Wait until the Navy starts accepting commercial sponsors in order to
increase their budget. We could be looking at the USS Taco Bell some day.
Before you laugh, don't forget that local and state governments are already
renaming public sport and civic centers after commercial investors as a
source of income. Lets face it, nothing is sacred when it comes to money.

Fitz
"Bob" wrote in message
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Anybody else bothered by the naming of US aircraft carriers after
people who were still living at the time? I'm sure that Carl Vinson
(CVN-70) & John C. Stennis (CVN-74) did good thing but to have a
carrier named after them? I wish the US Navy would go back to naming
carriers after famous battles & ships. Would it not be great to have
in the fleet carriers again named USS Hornet, Lexington, Saratoga,
Oriskany. It would honor the sailors that served on these great ships.

"John Fitzpatrick" wrote in message

Wait until the Navy starts accepting commercial sponsors in order
to
increase their budget. We could be looking at the USS Taco Bell some day.
Before you laugh, don't forget that local and state governments are
already
renaming public sport and civic centers after commercial investors as a
source of income. Lets face it, nothing is sacred when it comes to money.

One of our local jurisdictions is putting into service police cars carrying
commercial advertisements.

I would guess bail bondsmen and defense lawyers might be very interested in
this concept.

Bill Kambic

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