Instrument training

wrote:

I HATE the foggles. I am required to wear reading glasses when I fly,
and for good reason. I need them to read charts, plates, and GPS.
They work fine. But putting on the foggles makes me unable to read
even with the glasses. So I have to look down, raise the foggles
enough to be able to read, and then replace them. It sucks.


What kind of Foggles do you have? I have the clip-ons and they work
pretty well. The clear part got so scratched that I had a hard time
seeing so I took a hack saw blade and cut out the clear part leaving the
rest. Works pretty good. Of course the clip-ons aren't the best as a
view limiting device, but then again I don't cheat as I'd only be
cheating myself. FYI - when I took my check-ride many moons ago, the DE
had no problem with me using the clip-ons.


Matt

wrote:
I HATE the foggles. I am required to wear reading glasses when I fly,
and for good reason. I need them to read charts, plates, and GPS.
They work fine. But putting on the foggles makes me unable to read
even with the glasses. So I have to look down, raise the foggles
enough to be able to read, and then replace them. It sucks.

Get a set of half-glasses made.

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Others have mentioned the instructor as a possible issue. But I recall
how,
early in my training, I tried several different "view limiting devices"
before I found one (Foggles) that I disliked the least.

As much as I did enjoy the IR training, I never grew to like the foggles.
It was especially bad when I got a new pair of glasses that were smaller
in
the vertical dimension than my previous pair. The area blocked by the
foggles covered most of my corrected vision range.

Foggles, and in fact all the other vision limiting devices that you attach
yourself, are a pain in the butt. The only type of thing I found any good
was to have louvred screens in the aircraft which prevent the left-seat
driver from seeing out of his/her side of the windscreen and the side
windows, but which allow the resident of the right seat to see OK.

D.

David Cartwright wrote:

Foggles, and in fact all the other vision limiting devices that you attach
yourself, are a pain in the butt.

You're using them improperly.

- Andrew (who couldn't resist {8^)

David Cartwright wrote:

Foggles, and in fact all the other vision limiting devices that you attach
yourself, are a pain in the butt.

In that case, maybe you should get your head out of there. :-)

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.

On 5/19/05 9:53 AM, in article
, "xxx"
spewed:

I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Can anyone remind me why I'm inflicting this on myself?


It will get fun. Once you make an approach that's virtually flawless and
realize later that just a little while ago you wouldn't have had a clue how
to do that, then realize how valuable that skill could be in an emergency,
it will put it all in a new light.

Patience.
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xxx wrote:
I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Can anyone remind me why I'm inflicting this on myself?


First, a few questions:

1. What is your motivation to obtain the instrument rating?
2. What exactly don't you find to be fun?
3. Have you taken the written?


Matt

Because you are moving to the San Fernando Valley and will want that IR
ticket to work with the marine layer
BT

"xxx" wrote in message
ups.com...
I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Can anyone remind me why I'm inflicting this on myself?

In article . com,
"xxx" wrote:

I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Can anyone remind me why I'm inflicting this on myself?

You said you were moving to the San Fernando Valley. We get "June
gloom" here, marine-layer overcast that creates 500-1000 foot ceilings
with tops at 2000-3000 and very smooth air. It keeps all the VFR
weenies grounded, while we IFR rated pilots get to pop out on top of a
perfectly smooth, perfectly white cloud layer that stretches to the
horizon and sparkles in the morning sun like a fresh snowfall making it
look like you're flying in the middle of nowhere instead of over Los
Angeles. It's one of the most beautiful things you'll ever see.

You're inflicting this on yourself because it's even more beautiful from
the left seat :-)

rg

"xxx" wrote in message
ups.com...
I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Can anyone remind me why I'm inflicting this on myself?

The instrument rating is not for everyone, xxx. If you are having problems
understanding why you are getting it, then you are in the wrong program.
It's just like flying VFR - it's not for everyone. You know what you want
and your limitations. You make the decision.

Clyde Torres