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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville, NC)
Larry Dighera wrote:
So, you just choose to call yourself a hobby pilot for no reason? Help out a non-native english speaker here, but that question seems to imply that "hobby pilot" is somehow an insult. To me, "recreational activity in which I regularly engage" is just a verbose way of saying "hobby", so "hobby pilot" and "recreational pilot" are synonymous. (I would even argue that "hobby" implies a certain frequency, while "recreational" just means a one-off thing). Certainly, "hobby" to me has no negative connotations. Perhaps we have a classic case of "lost in translation". I would actually consider the German word for recreational pilot - Freizeitpilot - as a potentially more derogative term than Hobbypilot, certainly, the latter implies a measure of dedication and seriousness that the former doesn't. Since Stefan seems to be from Switzerland, he may experience the same disconnect here. So, anybody help us out? Anno. |
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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville, NC)
Stefan wrote:
"Larry Dighera" wrote in message .. . Why do you think a recreational pilot is more serious about flying than a hobby pilot? Usually, you call a recreational activity a hobby when you start to pursue it more seriously. So, you just choose to call yourself a hobby pilot for no reason? You can read, can you? I call myself a hobby pilot because piloting is a hobby of mine. Unlike e.g. lying on the sofa, which I also ocasionally practise for recreational reasons, but which I wouldn't call a hobby. Stefan I am a pilot. Ron Lee |
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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville, NC)
Matt Barrow wrote:
My wife is skinny -- how does one answer when she keeps complaining that her "upper level proportion" is too SMALL? Breast size is inversely proportional to intelligence. -- Peter |
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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville,NC)
Peter R. wrote:
Breast size is inversely proportional to intelligence. I've known some women who could shoot that theory down in flames. One is a Yale / Stanford educated doctor, who also happens to be tall and blond! G |
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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville, NC)
"Anno v. Heimburg" wrote in message
... Help out a non-native english speaker here, but that question seems to imply that "hobby pilot" is somehow an insult. To me, "recreational activity in which I regularly engage" is just a verbose way of saying "hobby", so "hobby pilot" and "recreational pilot" are synonymous. (I would even argue that "hobby" implies a certain frequency, while "recreational" just means a one-off thing). Certainly, "hobby" to me has no negative connotations. The literal meaning of 'hobby' is just as you say, and is not disparaging. However, words such as 'hobbyist' or 'amateur' are sometimes used to suggest a superficial level of competence, in contrast with the presumed expertise of a 'professional'. People may become defensive about that connotation. --Gary |
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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville, NC)
Gary,
However, words such as 'hobbyist' or 'amateur' are sometimes used to suggest a superficial level of competence, in contrast with the presumed expertise of a 'professional'. The author Robert Littel makes extensive use of the definition of a professional of someone that is of the opinion that if something is worth doing at all, it is worth doing well, IIRC. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville,NC)
Anno v. Heimburg schrieb:
Help out a non-native english speaker here, but that question seems to imply that "hobby pilot" is somehow an insult. Although not a native English speaker, I think I understand those connotations sufficiently well. Which doesn't prevent me from finding this discussion ridiculous, though. But then, I don't believe that small persons become bigger when you call them vertically challenged, either. Stefan |
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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville, NC)
"Gary Drescher" wrote in message . .. "Anno v. Heimburg" wrote in message ... Help out a non-native english speaker here, but that question seems to imply that "hobby pilot" is somehow an insult. To me, "recreational activity in which I regularly engage" is just a verbose way of saying "hobby", so "hobby pilot" and "recreational pilot" are synonymous. (I would even argue that "hobby" implies a certain frequency, while "recreational" just means a one-off thing). Certainly, "hobby" to me has no negative connotations. The literal meaning of 'hobby' is just as you say, and is not disparaging. However, words such as 'hobbyist' or 'amateur' are sometimes used to suggest a superficial level of competence, in contrast with the presumed expertise of a 'professional'. People may become defensive about that connotation. --Gary Here is my definition Professional Pilot - Gets paid for flying. Salary + Equipment provided. Pilot - May or may not get paid for flying (usually has to bear all the expenses himself -herself). Level of competence doesn't play a part. However if someone was paying for my training and expenses and providing the aircraft I would fly 1000+ hours/year and my level of proficiency would be higher than it is now Howard C182P |
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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville, NC)
I don't know why I'm having so much difficulty conveying the idea that airmen should not be, or bee seen to be, dilettantes, but because the general public tacitly agrees to the potential hazard of our piloting our mechanical equipment over their property and persons, airman must be seen by the lay public as exercising prudence, respect, and a professional diligence in pursuing aviation. Anything less invites public ridicule of airmen.... |
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You're Not Going To Believe This: Another Cirrus Is Down (Statesville, NC)
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... "Jim Macklin" wrote in message ... I tend to say, "You look thinner in any dress." which is totally wrong! You guys got it easy; those are all canned answers. My wife is skinny -- how does one answer when she keeps complaining that her "upper level proportion" is too SMALL? A few AMUs will fix that right up. About half the price of a Garmin 430 installed for a good set. |
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