A320 with gear problem over LA

Don Tuite wrote:

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 21:05:41 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote:


In article JpIYe.396861$xm3.349765@attbi_s21,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:


Why? I always type two spaces at the end of each sentence. It makes
everything more readable.

Bingo - the two spaces, even with proportional font, definitely makes
the sentence structure more readable.

Maybe I'm just old. (-(


Here's a link from the University of Chicago manual of style, which
favors one space:

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/C...paceorTwo.html

Not surprising. There are a lot of things about Chicago that just
aren't right. They also tear up great airports in the middle of the
night like the true cowards they are.

Matt

Matt Barrow wrote:

"Capt.Doug" wrote in message
...

Even with a collapsed
nosegear, rudder effectiveness along with differential braking should keep
it on the runway for the first half if not for the entire runway length.


Is the rudder strong enough to overcome the friction from the nosegear? That
seems improbable to me (just a guess).

Probably at high speed such as at initial touchdown. As the plane
slowed, probably not, but differential braking probably could.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:

Almost all of the engineers and scientists that
I've hired during the last 10 years use just one space between
sentences.

That's probably because the whole world (the latin script writing part
of it, anyway) is using only one space ... except exactly one country,
of course.

Stefan

"zoltan" said:
Holding the nosegear high during the rollout probably
overstressed the tailfin and it will come off during the next
flight.

What??? How do you figure that? (Can't wait to read THIS explanation)

How would the pilot's pitch input affect the rudder? You're thinking of
the infamous Airbus tail-shedding accident I assume?

Happy Dog wrote:
Brakes are used during a soft field landing where the point is to put as little weight as possible on the nose gear. Try again.

You have that completely backwards my friend. In a soft field landing
you don't touch the brakes because you risk getting the nosegear stuck
in the "soft field". Weight transfers forward when braking and the last
thing you want is more weight on the nosewheel. No different than
braking in a car - the front end dips.

Same holds true with the reversers. The engines' thrust line is below
the CG. By reversing thrust the nose of the jet is forced down.

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:25:45 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote:

Don Tuite wrote:
. . .
Here's a link from the University of Chicago manual of style, which
favors one space:

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/C...paceorTwo.html

Not surprising. There are a lot of things about Chicago that just
aren't right. They also tear up great airports in the middle of the
night like the true cowards they are.

No football team, either.

Don

wrote in
Happy Dog wrote:
Brakes are used during a soft field landing where the point is to put as
little weight as possible on the nose gear. Try again.

You have that completely backwards my friend. In a soft field landing
you don't touch the brakes

No brakes, huh? What kind of plane are you talking about? Have you done
any on short fields? (As most turf strips are.) If it's swampy enough to
create enough drag to quickly slow you down well, that's the same as
braking, right? *Think.*

moo

wrote:

I doubt the reversers were used at all, ...

An AP article this morning said the pilots shut down the engines at 60 knots.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

Happy Dog wrote:

Brakes are used during a soft
field landing where the point is to put as little weight as possible on the
nose gear.

Not the way I was taught. You stay off the brakes to keep the nose light.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

"George Patterson"
Brakes are used during a soft field landing where the point is to put as
little weight as possible on the nose gear.

Not the way I was taught. You stay off the brakes to keep the nose light.

Keeping it light is good. Keeping it in the air (as it will be after TD
with full up elevator) is pointless and increases the landing roll. Use the
brakes after TD until the speed gets to the point where elevator authority
is insufficient to hold the nose up or keep it light enough for the
conditions. How much you use then depends on the length of the strip.

moo